WME - Extended Tools (fka Plugin pour Papyrus) - English

[fvwazing]

And me too. I have used ET sporadicly in the past, to fix special cases, but all that comes down to less than 1% of my total edits. I stumbled into this thread today because I am looking for a new version of ET - to install, use for a wicked case, and uninstall. I made my first 200k edits in my first 2 years - using Cartouche, the old editor, that forced one to think about each and every click BEFORE it was clicked.I do not "crack open" complete neighborhoods but rather do the connections between the villages and leave the details to the locals to deal with. By NOT fixing the neighborhoods I take into account that Waze will not route correctly from doorstep to doorstep but rather from hood to hood - which covers probably over 90% of the distance of each drive. I do clean loose connections, complicated crossings and the like in neighborhoods and ET will not help me a bit with that.

The problem with massedits is that they do not help much in the achievement of quality in the map and that users of ET gain countrymanagerstatus within weeks - without learning how Waze works. I am sure that in the past year, with intervals between map-updates of some 6 weeks, there were some users that worked to CM-status without having seen 2 updates, and so have no estimate of the validity of their actions.

[razor2k]

Look at the leader board up to today... 100k points in a few days? How do you explain that without ET? I don't see how anyone can stay up that long, especially with the new editor

I was referring to the All time top ten. However, on the weekly top 10, the highest one is 42,420. That's about 13,000 edits. At 1000 edits per hour, it's doable if someone has a lot of time on their hands. Most likely it was aided with ET.

If you do the math it comes to around 1.5 edits per every 5 seconds non stop for an hour. Seems highly unlikely unless you're a robot with a computer processor for a brain.....or using ET:smile:

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[razor2k]

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How to get 97,000 points in one day

While I don't want to see ET go away, this makes a good case for doing so.

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[fvwazing]

If you do the math it comes to around 1.5 edits per every 5 seconds non stop for an hour. Seems highly unlikely unless you're a robot with a computer processor for a brain.....or using ET:smile:

Actually it is more like 1 edit per second for 5 minutes, and then 5 minutes off. I scan the area for (potential) problems, find some, take a deep breath and plunge for another 5 minutes. I take your reference to being a robot as a compliment and as an encouragement, but for now I still have to break every few minutes.

Can anyone explain me the benefits of putting a cityname on every street in a remote village, with no Wazetracks around? By enabling all roads in a village you are solving problems that do not even exist - remember, there where NO WAZETRACKS. Some day local editors will pop up and start editing. Using ET means robbing them of half the points. There is less chance that they will pick up editing. By leaving the raw basemap as it is, with all its quirks, unnecessary split roads, loose ends and whatever you burden those future local editors with more complexity then they can handle.

The current pointsystem does not discourage using ET in that bad manner and it does not encourage adding love to detail. It should be changed in such a way that you can not become CM if the only "technique" you learned is mass-editing with ET.

[razor2k]

If you do the math it comes to around 1.5 edits per every 5 seconds non stop for an hour. Seems highly unlikely unless you're a robot with a computer processor for a brain.....or using ET:smile:

Actually it is more like 1 edit per second for 5 minutes, and then 5 minutes off. I scan the area for (potential) problems, find some, take a deep breath and plunge for another 5 minutes. I take your reference to being a robot as a compliment and as an encouragement, but for now I still have to break every few minutes.

Can anyone explain me the benefits of putting a cityname on every street in a remote village, with no Wazetracks around? By enabling all roads in a village you are solving problems that do not even exist - remember, there where NO WAZETRACKS. Some day local editors will pop up and start editing. Using ET means robbing them of half the points. There is less chance that they will pick up editing. By leaving the raw basemap as it is, with all its quirks, unnecessary split roads, loose ends and whatever you burden those future local editors with more complexity then they can handle.

The current pointsystem does not discourage using ET in that bad manner and it does not encourage adding love to detail. It should be changed in such a way that you can not become CM if the only "technique" you learned is mass-editing with ET.

Sorry, there is no way you can do 1 edit per second 5 minutes straight without some sort of assistance....just not possible. You may dispute this if you want, but you won't convince me without proven data:smile:

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[fvwazing]

Could you spoil your thoughts on parts 2 and 3 of that post?

[razor2k]

If you do the math it comes to around 1.5 edits per every 5 seconds non stop for an hour. Seems highly unlikely unless you're a robot with a computer processor for a brain.....or using ET:smile:

Actually it is more like 1 edit per second for 5 minutes, and then 5 minutes off. I scan the area for (potential) problems, find some, take a deep breath and plunge for another 5 minutes. I take your reference to being a robot as a compliment and as an encouragement, but for now I still have to break every few minutes.

Really?......are you serious?

[daknife]

1 edit per second for five minutes? That's a mere 300 edits. Find a city that was just basemapped but nothing else. Particularly if the city is laid out on a basic grid. click on a segment, click on select all (to get all or at least several of the segments. Click on road direction drop down select two way.) maybe two seconds for this series if you are slow and you could have an easy dozen edits. Do again for the next street in the grid, continue for the rest of the grid, five minutes can easily clean up a small city/town. for several hundred points, but that's not the big point gainer. Now go back over the city, select each intersection (click) hit Q then W, then on to the next junction. That's four edits for four direction arrows, time a second or less.

300 edits in five minutes? Easy peasy, maybe not for hours straight but not hard to get, not hard at all.

Now if the city has un-named street segments that slows it down (harder/slower to group select) as does making sure you aren't dealing with one way roads (rare in my area). But 300 edits in five minutes is still not hard to get.

[enhket]

If you do the math it comes to around 1.5 edits per every 5 seconds non stop for an hour. Seems highly unlikely unless you're a robot with a computer processor for a brain.....or using ET:smile:

Actually it is more like 1 edit per second for 5 minutes, and then 5 minutes off. I scan the area for (potential) problems, find some, take a deep breath and plunge for another 5 minutes. I take your reference to being a robot as a compliment and as an encouragement, but for now I still have to break every few minutes.

Can anyone explain me the benefits of putting a cityname on every street in a remote village, with no Wazetracks around? By enabling all roads in a village you are solving problems that do not even exist - remember, there where NO WAZETRACKS. Some day local editors will pop up and start editing. Using ET means robbing them of half the points. There is less chance that they will pick up editing. By leaving the raw basemap as it is, with all its quirks, unnecessary split roads, loose ends and whatever you burden those future local editors with more complexity then they can handle.

The current pointsystem does not discourage using ET in that bad manner and it does not encourage adding love to detail. It should be changed in such a way that you can not become CM if the only "technique" you learned is mass-editing with ET.

well, looks like waze won't mind about "robbing them of half the points" as the "ign" editors do this all time. Check out "Playa del Carmen, Mexico". All roads created, no name. By the way, you are making a big deal when you imply that people need enough map-edit updates in order to edit a map properly. All of the people don't need meet a 300k-400k map-edit-updates level to develop common sense.

[fvwazing]

If they get that far with the help of ET and within weeks - your country is basically LOST in the long run, mate. Good luck.