Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

by **kentsmith9** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:02 am

I assume we need to update the Wiki with this new recommendation.

Waze Champ, etc. · by **GizmoGuy411** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:42 am

To insure that we have tested as many possibilities for BOTH TTS files generated, here are the re-tests I just submitted to my test rig. (They are NOT in the list yet.)

N / n / E / e / S / s / W / w / NE / ne / NW / ne / SE / se / SW / sw
N. / n. / E. / e. / S. / s. / W. / w.
'N' / 'n' / 'E' / 'e' / 'S' / 's' / 'W' / 'w'
"N" / "n" / "E" / "e" / "S" / "s" / "W" / "w"
/N , /n , /E , /e , /S , /s , /W , /w

Please wait until the results are in for all of these before changing any segment names.

They were entered into WME 2013-02-03 05:30 UTC, so the results may not be available until Monday. I'll will try to audio test them as soon as they are incorporated into the map updates.

Waze Champ, etc. · by **GizmoGuy411** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:57 am

Regarding "Avenue S", I feel that since the word "Avenue" is not used as a suffix, and that it is used in this case more as a proper noun and not as an adjective, that it probably should remain spelled out, which would mean the name entry would be [Avenue 'S'], even though it implicitly implies that the road is an avenue.

As an example, there is a road near me called "West Course Road". I have it named in Waze as [West Course Rd] rather than [W Course Rd]. The word "West" in this case is part of the proper noun for the name of the road, and NOT a cardinal prefix adjective.

by **orbitc** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:42 am

GizmoGuy411 wrote:
Please wait until the results are in for all of these before changing any segment names.

They were entered into WME 2013-02-03 05:30 UTC, so the results may not be available until Monday. I'll will try to audio test them as soon as they are incorporated into the map updates.

OK. We'll wait for you.
thanks

by **orbitc** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:46 am

GizmoGuy411 wrote:Regarding "Avenue S", I feel that since the word "Avenue" is not used as a suffix, and that it is used in this case more as a proper noun and not as an adjective, that it probably should remain spelled out, which would mean the name entry would be [Avenue 'S'], even though it implicitly implies that the road is an avenue.

Agreed. I'll keep them as you suggested. Again, we'll wait for you before we do any changes.

by **Wajo357** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:17 am

orbitc wrote:
GizmoGuy411 wrote:Regarding "Avenue S", I feel that since the word "Avenue" is not used as a suffix, and that it is used in this case more as a proper noun and not as an adjective, that it probably should remain spelled out, which would mean the name entry would be [Avenue 'S'], even though it implicitly implies that the road is an avenue.

Agreed. I'll keep them as you suggested. Again, we'll wait for you before we do any changes.

Keep in mind current Brooklyn Ave names use Ave and not Avenue. Furthermore, I believe street signs say Ave not Avenue. Why fix it if it Ain't broke? My vote is to leave Ave as is and just deal with the s.

by **orbitc** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:41 am

Wajo357 wrote:Keep in mind current Brooklyn Ave names use Ave and not Avenue. Furthermore, I believe street signs say Ave not Avenue. Why fix it if it Ain't broke? My vote is to leave Ave as is and just deal with the s.

I think, I need to clarify this:

We are not changing anything. Especially, anything like Brooklyn Ave to Brooklyn Avenue.

My response was keeping Avenue same as it was when it's Avenue S.

GizmoGuy411 wrote:Regarding "Avenue S", I feel that since the word "Avenue" is not used as a suffix, and that it is used in this case more as a proper noun and not as an adjective, that it probably should remain spelled out, which would mean the name entry would be [Avenue 'S'], even though it implicitly implies that the road is an avenue.

As an example, there is a road near me called "West Course Road". I have it named in Waze as [West Course Rd] rather than [W Course Rd]. The word "West" in this case is part of the proper noun for the name of the road, and NOT a cardinal prefix adjective.

So, Brooklyn Ave stays as is. Once we have to go ahead from GizmoGuy411 we'll start changing those directional letters.

by **jasonh300** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:08 am

orbitc wrote:
Wajo357 wrote:Keep in mind current Brooklyn Ave names use Ave and not Avenue. Furthermore, I believe street signs say Ave not Avenue. Why fix it if it Ain't broke? My vote is to leave Ave as is and just deal with the s.

I think, I need to clarify this:

We are not changing anything. Especially, anything like Brooklyn Ave to Brooklyn Avenue.

My response was keeping Avenue same as it was when it's Avenue S.

I think he meant "the avenues in Brooklyn", rather than Brooklyn Avenue.

Meaning the street signs say "Ave S" rather than "Avenue S"

by **orbitc** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:45 am

Correct

by **sketch** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:02 am

Timbones wrote:
orbitc wrote:Would you put Avenue S as Ave 'S' or just leave it as Avenue 'S'?

Not sure. Is it "Avenue Ess" or "Avenue South"? Which is the noun? Does it really need to be abbreviated at all? Maybe it's time to get rid of them altogether. Devices have much higher resolutions these days, and there's plenty of space on the screen for full road names... [/rant]

I don't think so. Resolutions are getting higher but not all screens are getting bigger. I think you'll have a tough time justifying spelling out "Boulevard" or "Throughway" in any case.