Excessive Parking Lot Roads

[jasonh300]

I'd report it directly to Waze admin. There are entire neighborhoods that aren't on the map, but this guy's been wasting time drawing in all these parking lot roads at least since February.

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... TTTFTTTTFT

[jasonh300]

And then there is this aptly named parking lot...
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lon=-122.02908&lat=37.33224&layers=BFTFTTTFTTTTTTTTTTTTFT

And not only did someone draw all those parking lot roads and the Infinite Loop, but then an IGN came along and decided it wasn't done (screwed up) quite right and modified all of them.

[jasonh300]

By the way, for those who don't know, that's Apple headquarters.

Yup. I didn't get to see the place when I was out there, but Sketch said he visited the campus while he was out exploring before the Wazemeet in January.

[jasonh300]

Zowie!
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&lat ... TTTFTTTTFT

Select Entire Street...DELETE...138 easy editing points.

This is why they need to stop handing out Level 2 access without some kind of test or screening. In the process of cleaning up L.A., I found a large area where every single parking lot road was drawn in like that....not a single one was connected to a real road, and many of them were drawn with ONE SEGMENT. IOW, draw a lane, double back, move to the next one, draw another lane, double back, etc. All Private Road, two-way, no city/no street. Absolutely no value whatsoever. It looked like the editor spent about 3 weeks on it a few months ago and never edited anything else that I could find, and never came back.

[jondrush]

How many tears will rsmoser shed when I start blasting away at all of those?

[MattDinOC]

Dumb newbie question... What's the problem with parking lot roads? Obviously, marking every single lane of a lot is unnecessary. But here's an example of a parking lot I filled in. I think it's nice to see my car traveling along a designated road in the client instead of jumping around, snapping from one main road to another as it does when no parking lot roads are there...

I just want to understand what the generally accepted practices are and why.

Thanks,
Matt

[MattDinOC]

The biggest benefit I see of adding parking lot roads is that they provide a workaround to the "route ends on a limited-access highway" problem.

I tried navigating to my local Costco using GMaps search to find the landmark, and Waze told me that my route ended on the toll road. After I created parking lot roads for the property, the same search gave me the correct route.

I understand from reading this thread why this happens, but the underlying mechanics don't change the fact that Waze gives wrong directions in the absence of parking lot roads.

IMO, ignoring turn restrictions is a minor inconvenience in comparison. The driver can use his/her brain when exiting the property and turn right instead of making the illegal left advised by Waze. (Am I understanding the problem correctly?) And at some point, that routing bug ought to get fixed in Waze anyway, right?

[MattDinOC]

I just found this earlier thread which gives a very good explanation of the issues with parking lot roads and how to handle them.

I like the compromise idea of defining the entrance/exit roads for parking lots as type "parking lot road" and defining roads that are fully within the parking lot as type "street." As well as dropping a parking lot landmark over the whole thing and only mapping the major routes within the parking lot.

I just thought I'd share for the benefit of other rookie map editors.

Cheers,
Matt

[MattDinOC]

Yes, here it is. I thought I had looked around before, but I may have been looking in the wrong place. Thanks!

Matt

[Mike-1323]

I ran across another case of what not to do with a parking lot: https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... FFTFTTTTFT