Editing points issue

by **crazycomputingdotnet** » Wed May 23, 2012 5:10 am

I think the new point counting algorithm has an issue where if two segments or more get edited that are connected by the same node it only counts as one edit vs. 2+ edits. I know I made ~1300 edits the other night and only 366 were actually counted. I have noticed this decrease in edits since the new system went in place. I only counted segments that were edited or realigned once. (eg if I disconnected a segment, removed a node, then reconnected it only counted as one edit). Most of my edits are setting direction then turn restriction, (counted as one edit per segment and I didn't count the turn restriction) and removing excess nodes.

by **zombie16** » Thu May 24, 2012 2:45 pm

I've noticed that also. I spent 6 hours straight last Friday cleaning up several residential developments. I expected to get several bonus candies the following day, but I only received 3.

Not sure if there is a problem, but on the dashboard I have 207454 points, but in the client I am showing only 201713 points. I hope they didn't go back and recalculate previous totals. The dashboard also hasn't been updated in a couple days.

*Edit: Waze posted an update on the points issue on the status page.

by **fvwazing** » Fri May 25, 2012 8:25 pm

Maybe there really are issues, maybe it is only the anti-fraud coding that now is in place. But it takes some time with timely updates to debug anything.

by **crazycomputingdotnet** » Sat May 26, 2012 4:01 am

Another 7 hours of editing and 303 edits counted.

by **jasonh300** » Sat May 26, 2012 4:43 am

crazycomputingdotnet wrote:Another 7 hours of editing and 303 edits counted.

What exactly are you doing? Cleanup? Drawing new roads?

I spent 30 minutes fixing up a rural US Hwy today that was all screwed up from the basemap import, and got 422 edits.

by **crazycomputingdotnet** » Sat May 26, 2012 4:49 am

Doing both. Tampa / St Pete has not been touched much except major highways, and even then hasn't been that good. So It has been primarilly fixing the import and adding new neighborhoods as needed. I have been working on St Pete for the last few months, and I normally can get 500-800 edits a day depending on how many breaks I take. I have been doing the same amount of work and have been getting ~300-400 edits.

by **jasonh300** » Sat May 26, 2012 2:23 pm

crazycomputingdotnet wrote:Doing both. Tampa / St Pete has not been touched much except major highways, and even then hasn't been that good. So It has been primarilly fixing the import and adding new neighborhoods as needed. I have been working on St Pete for the last few months, and I normally can get 500-800 edits a day depending on how many breaks I take. I have been doing the same amount of work and have been getting ~300-400 edits.

If you're drawing new neighborhoods, you're going to get fewer points for sure. This is something that they need to adjust with the points scheme.

Before, if you drew in a neighborhood, then set direction, then named the streets, then set the turn restrictions, you got 4 edits per segment. Now, you only get one edit per segment, whether you edit it once or 4 times. Even during cleanup, there are things that used to give you two edits that will now only give you one...for instance, set a street to two-way and then adjust the geometry, or change the name.

In my situation, most new areas are already there, but when I do cleanup, I'll come across new neighborhoods and draw them in, but it's always a mix of the two, so I haven't noticed how bad it is for drawing new streets.

Also, the more you do this, the more efficient you get and can do a lot more in a shorter time.

by **crazycomputingdotnet** » Sat May 26, 2012 3:08 pm

It seems like to me it is more like one point per node, not segment. Like if there are 4 segments touching one node and you edit all 4 segments you are getting one edit credit vs 4.

by **fvwazing** » Sat May 26, 2012 3:16 pm

An "edit" as listed at the top-right corner of the editor can include many many edited segments at once. I think the only way you have a chance to deduct what really happens is by using a second useraccount, noting the score, making a single edit and see what happens in the scoreboard the next day. Repeat for another single operation. All that only makes sense if the scoreboard ticks everyday or alternatively make many accounts and check after a week.

by **Mike-1323** » Sat May 26, 2012 9:12 pm

I'm curious how the points system actually counts points. For instance, if I edit a four-way intersection with all turn restrictions set by selecting the node and hitting 'w' ; what gets counted? I've made 12 changes to 4 segments with 1 edit. Or what I've been doing a lot of lately, changing a segment direction by hitting 'r' 3 times (it's faster) then setting turn restrictions with 'w' (typically 4 changes to 3 segments with 1 edit). The edit count on the dashboard is too slow updating to be used to track this.