Overpasses, Levels and such...

by **jimerb** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:43 pm

I was just digging on the wiki for some deeper information on the wiki regarding overpasses and levels. All I was able to dig up was this document

Can anyone point me to some more details on levels?

I have a situation at this permalink that I believe might be caused by levels being messed up:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=9&lat=40.80516&lon=-73.28843&layers=BFTFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTFT

What's happening is that if you go to the right on this fork the mobile app gives up and just recalculates the route. All of the turn restrictions appear correct so I'm left to think that is improperly looking at overpasses, etc. Should the rightmost road in the fork be the same level as the originating road?

There are always a ton of problems reported at this intersection and I'm trying to fix them once and for all.

Thanks for any advice.

dmcconachie · by **dmcconachie** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:46 pm

Levels are pretty much irrelevant now. Pay attention to the connections rather than the levels.

by **jimerb** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:49 pm

Ok so if levels are irrelavant what the heck is going on with this junction?

The turns restrictions are correct so now what?

Thanks for your assistance.

by **shawndoc** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:08 am

Looks like Waze snapped them to the wrong segment. Waze thought they were on the service road when they weren't.

by **jasonh300** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:11 am

shawndoc wrote:Looks like Waze snapped them to the wrong segment. Waze thought they were on the service road when they weren't.

IOW, bad GPS reception or weak GPS hardware, which is a problem with most smartphones.

I'm not drunk...I'm using Tapatalk.

by **AlanOfTheBerg** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:23 pm

dmcconachie wrote:Levels are pretty much irrelevant now. Pay attention to the connections rather than the levels.

Why are levels irrelevant? Should all levels be set to zero?

by **jasonh300** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:00 pm

It seems that Waze will not automatically junction roads anymore, so the levels aren't necessary for that anymore. But the levels are necessary for display purposes, even though that isn't working on the (iPhone) client anymore either.

by **CBenson** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:01 pm

jasonh300 wrote:It seems that Waze will not automatically junction roads anymore, so the levels aren't necessary for that anymore. But the levels are necessary for display purposes, even though that isn't working on the (iPhone) client anymore either.

Levels don't appear to affect the Android client display either (or the live map as far as I can tell). I had though that correct levels did help avoid map problem generation.

by **gettingthere** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:11 pm

I think that it is premature to discard leveling. Setting proper road levels should continue until Waze confirms that road junctioning can no longer happen automatically and that they never intend to show the roads superimposed in the client correctly.

Edit - made some changes to clarify.

by **harling** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:11 am

gettingthere wrote:I think that it is premature to discard leveling. Leveling should continue until we know for sure from Waze that road junction can no longer happen automatically and that they never intend to show the roads superimposed in the client correctly.

I agree. Level data (where accurate) is information about roads that Waze could use in some way; e.g., when a future 3D client is released. :-)