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Re: Users claim no road...but it's there!

Postby jasonh300 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:32 am

Won't route there unless you're going to an address on the street. Also, once I drove it and got Waze to recalculate, it gave me a time of 2 minutes to get to the end of the block, so I think it IS adding time to the route due to all of the junctions. Actual time should be about 45 seconds.
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Re: Users claim no road...but it's there!

Postby bgodette » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:05 pm

jasonh300 wrote:Won't route there unless you're going to an address on the street. Also, once I drove it and got Waze to recalculate, it gave me a time of 2 minutes to get to the end of the block, so I think it IS adding time to the route due to all of the junctions. Actual time should be about 45 seconds.
I'd call this conclusive.
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Re: Users claim no road...but it's there!

Postby jasonh300 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:21 pm

I drove it again last night with the map zoomed out a bit and the car chugged along pausing at each junction. The junctions aren't visible, but once I got the routing to recalculate, I noticed that the purple line had a zig-zag look to it.

I guess I can go ahead and remove that now.
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Re: Users claim no road...but it's there!

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:47 pm

Nice detective work Jason. Did you save a screen shot of it before you killed it?

If the tiles start updating faster than they did for most of the summer, maybe I'll recreate my TTS abbreviation test rig with the remaining items to be tested.
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Re: Users claim no road...but it's there!

Postby jasonh300 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:37 pm

Haven't had a chance to get rid of it yet. I'll get a screen shot though.
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Re: Users claim no road...but it's there!

Postby andrewkjs » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:32 am

This is great investigative work. Quick question though. We tend to segment our long highways into 1km sections or shorter in order to have traffic congestion appear earlier and more accurately show the highway section that's affected.

Example: https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=3&lat=3.09937&lon=101.57287&layers=BFTFTTTFTTFTTTTFTTTTFT&segments=165313514,165313421,165313389,165313591,165314062,165314061,165314065,165314064

Would the advantages of this editing practice outweigh the disadvantages (i.e the effect on routing ETA)?
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Re: Users claim no road...but it's there!

Postby jasonh300 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:08 am

andrewkjs wrote:This is great investigative work. Quick question though. We tend to segment our long highways into 1km sections or shorter in order to have traffic congestion appear earlier and more accurately show the highway section that's affected.
Would the advantages of this editing practice outweigh the disadvantages (i.e the effect on routing ETA)?


The general consensus is that a traffic jam between an entrance and an exit on a highway is a traffic jam, regardless of where on that segment it is and how long it is. Once you've gotten on that onramp, you're trapped. Navigation should avoid it either way if there's an alternate route, but I'd much rather see the road red at end of an onramp (navigation off), and decide to take another route than to get on the freeway and discover a red segment a mile (or 5 miles) later and be stuck in traffic.
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Re: Users claim no road...but it's there!

Postby jasonh300 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:11 am

Now that I've driven over the route several times, the routing doesn't seem to be an issue anymore. I guess it has gathered more speed data.

However, it still has a bad effect on the display on the client. The little car chugs along pausing at each junction. And with routing, still the zigzag display.
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Re: Re: Users claim no road...but it's there!

Postby xteejx » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:35 am

jasonh300 wrote:
andrewkjs wrote:This is great investigative work. Quick question though. We tend to segment our long highways into 1km sections or shorter in order to have traffic congestion appear earlier and more accurately show the highway section that's affected.
Would the advantages of this editing practice outweigh the disadvantages (i.e the effect on routing ETA)?


The general consensus is that a traffic jam between an entrance and an exit on a highway is a traffic jam, regardless of where on that segment it is and how long it is. Once you've gotten on that onramp, you're trapped. Navigation should avoid it either way if there's an alternate route, but I'd much rather see the road red at end of an onramp (navigation off), and decide to take another route than to get on the freeway and discover a red segment a mile (or 5 miles) later and be stuck in traffic.


+1 which is what I do. Segmenting highways is probably a bad idea tbh.

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Re: Users claim no road...but it's there!

Postby bgodette » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:24 pm

jasonh300 wrote:Now that I've driven over the route several times, the routing doesn't seem to be an issue anymore. I guess it has gathered more speed data.

However, it still has a bad effect on the display on the client. The little car chugs along pausing at each junction. And with routing, still the zigzag display.
Did you start off with a entirely new drawn segment that you added nodes to, or did you use an existing segment?
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