Hypothesis: US road img layer trouble loading after...

by **eshabtai** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:31 pm

Looks like it's gonna be Tuesday (not Monday anyway).
We'll announce it tomorrow morning.

by **fvwazing** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:09 pm

Thanks for the update, Ehud. Will the shutdown of the WME made visible to the public? I am thinking of a blank textpage with an explanation where otherwise the WME comes up.

by **harling** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:49 pm

eshabtai wrote:We plan to migrate the editor to the new tiles infrastructure sometimes next week. We'll let you know as soon as we set the date as we will have to shut down the editor for a day. Probably Monday or Tuesday.

Thanks, Ehud, for the update.

FWIW, Monday is Labor Day in the U.S. I don't know if that would mean a net increase or decrease in editing over the normal load, but you might want to take that into account.

by **harling** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:36 pm

AndyPoms wrote:
harling wrote:FWIW, Monday is Labor Day in the U.S. I don't know if that would mean a net increase or decrease in editing over the normal load, but you might want to take that into account.
It would certainly mean a net increase in cars on the road over longer periods of time (and therefore Waze traffic), and usually increases URs as people drive to places they don't typically drive to & discover more map issues...

I would hope that taking the editor offline would only impact map editors, not drivers. If the editor is going to be down for a day, it should be on whichever day is expected to have less editing activity. Resolving Labor Day URs on the same day vs. the next won't make much of a difference, but if editors in the U.S. tend to put in overtime on Labor Day, having the editor offline that day will cost a lot of productivity. On the other hand, if most U.S. editors have other plans and take a break from editing, then that is the better day for it to be offline. I don't know which is the case, but if HQ knows from past years, they should factor that in.

by **jondrush** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:56 am

How long will this go on. It is terrible to get anything done. Why no status updates on this problem?

by **kentsmith9** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:50 pm

Wow! Tiles are snapped to perfection this morning for me. No waiting. No pink tiles. Quick, find some wood to knock on it before I jinx it.

by **kentsmith9** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:56 pm

kentsmith9 wrote:Wow! Tiles are snapped to perfection this morning for me. No waiting. No pink tiles. Quick, find some wood to knock on it before I jinx it.

Shoot. I did not find the wood in time. But let me tell you, for the 3 minutes I was getting map tiles instantly, it was like I died and went to Waze Mapping Heaven!

Sorry if I jinxed it for everyone else. Hopefully we will get this speed soon again.

by **kentsmith9** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:35 pm

I did notice that in the middle of my edits at the lowest Visual map view I did a permalink because it was so slow (wanted to just kick it once) and my aerial image changed to a different rev. It was not just at that level either. All zoom levels above that had changed, so maybe they are updating the aerial map tiles and that is slowing things down?

by **kentsmith9** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:38 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
kentsmith9 wrote:All zoom levels above that had changed, so maybe they are updating the aerial map tiles and that is slowing things down?

The aerial layer comes directly from bing, though. Or, virtualearth more precisely, which is Microsoft. It could be what you are saying, but that isn't something under Waze's control.

Hmmm. I only noted that while I was looking at one zoom level I did a permalink and the image changed to a completely different shot of that same location. I assume it was more current, but unfortunately is was slightly more noisy (grainy). No matter really, I just had not experience it and thought it was under Waze control meaning it could be slowing down the servers. Maybe not after all.

{edit}
After I entered the above, I looked again at the location I was editing this morning. My tab was still open and I could see the new low quality image. I hit permalink, and the original image from before was now present (again at all zoom levels). I have no idea what that other view was from, unless it was a Bing Map caching error. I guess Waze is not the only one with map issues.

by **kentsmith9** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:06 pm

Agreed. If the editor is no different on Monday than the prior week, may as well take it down and take us editor out of our misery. Some of us will edit through a flood coming into our houses.