Where is the line? Locking

[EECGeek]

I am asking you people, where is the line between best practice to protect the map and abusive locking that is anti-comunity?

It seems that in my area someone crossed that line and it doesn't help anyone stuck with a lot of navigation errors.

Jean: That would be me you are talking about. And I AM NOT abusing the locking thing. AND I DON'T offer to answer in 24 hrs or 48 hrs or any time. I answer when I answer. If it's that serious then contact support or make a post and it will be fixed.

I don't lock many roads, intentionally. Since I am a level 5 when I do an edit I trump all except level 6, so if a level 2 locked it and I come along and make a correction, whether it is correct or not and I don't notice it has been locked, it stays locked to level 4 and down. There is one of those "locking people" who locks just about every road he edits, we'll go with just "Joe".

I now realize this and am fairly conscious about making sure only the appropriate roads are locked.

But it doesn't show what the previous editor was, so if I miss something that's wrong if I do an edit, it's me getting thrown under the bus. I will take it so bring it on.....lol!! I will fix any issue that I made or anyone else did, so just pm me and I will fix it, I may not pm you back though, so don't be offended.

Also I do one hell of a lot of editing and mistakes happen, trust me it will happen to you too. I once put 10 km worth of the 417 backwards, boy did I hear about that. I corrected it, said sorry and moved on.

I also believe any edit I made in the past, all the way down to level 1, is now locked at level 5. This kinda sucks because I made some errors along the learning path that I have realized since, unless they are already fixed.

One thing I don't like is whoever is reporting errors, some have been somewhat rude. They were directed at "level 5" and I am the only level 5 in the area. Please don't make it personal, I do this as a hobby and that makes it not fun. It doesn't matter how wrong or stupid the mistake was.

Greg

[jeanphilippedrouin78]

Also, remember that it's possible that someone of a lower level locked those roads, and then joe01romano came through and did some editing, and upon saving, inadvertently raised the lock level.

Thank you I didn't know that! Good to know!

This https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=32577 have a suggestion in how handling that!

Thank you for your answer Greg, like you said I believe most of editors here see this as a hobby. But, let's not forget that there is a lot of user on the road and that we have a responsibility too. (I know Waze is free but still have a lot of potential and the more people uses it the better it will be. I share the word to everyone I know who drive.)

The way I see why Waze is better is that actual user who drives and find errors, can go and make the change right away and the update is not long waited for max 10 days. That is if it's not locked because the occasional editor who goes on the editor to just fix a problem he found, will never be able to get the 200k editing required to obtain level 5.

I understand that there is UR (find it overall inconvenient due to while you drive it is unsafe to start explaing in details the problems you just encounter) + Unlock forum and ultimately PM to help with a locked road.

My recent experience with Ottawa, (I recently moved to Ottawa but was a user before in Montreal), is that I have more navigation problems, more locked road and a very poor response in the Unlock forum and PM (except for one individual who is very cooperative), compared to Montreal and yet it seem more popular in Ottawa because I see more Wazer on my screen here.

I had excellent relationship with AM of Montreal and we did an awesome job on some of the construction area there. I just wish it would be the same here because I just want to improve the user experience to a maximum.

Jean-Philippe

P.S.

One thing I don't like is whoever is reporting errors, some have been somewhat rude.

Sorry it was me and you're right it was rude. Could you please accept my apology. Do you have any suggestion in how I should turn your attention into map problems in order to have the maximum efficiency?

[EECGeek]

Jean-Phillipe: Apology accepted, it's all good.

Happy Wazing!

Greg

[rtelka]

Greg, thanks for your comments.
I sent you a PM, if you could please look.
I'd appreciate hearing from "joe01romano" whom many believe are abusing his editing/locking privileges...

Rob

[EECGeek]

Greg, thanks for your comments.
I sent you a PM, if you could please look.
I'd appreciate hearing from "joe01romano" whom many believe are abusing his editing/locking privileges...Rob

Rob: I don't think Joe answers anyone, I sent him a couple pms, no responses for a few months now. I might be his naughty list?

Greg

[jasonh300]

Rob: I don't think Joe answers anyone, I sent him a couple pms, no responses for a few months now. I might be his naughty list?

Greg

If that continues to be a problem, just send a request to NanoRep and they will try to contact him via his registered email address.

[Webs101]

I have to agree that joe01romano is absolutely abusing the lock feature and is making life miserable for Montreal-region Wazers.

I have written to him and he responds once in a while. The last time he wrote me back was Dec. 5 and he wrote:

I''ll be unlocking it later, I am in the middle of answering over 50 emails of checking people's edits on Google map. If nth tonight for sure first thing tomorrow morning. Thanks for being virile. That's what happens when you burning the candle on both ends between wake and Google maps.

He never unlocked what I was asking for.

Here is a small sample of the damage he is doing. Trust me, there is LOTS more.

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... 1,60622113 - Cars are allowed to turn left from Dandurand onto Dupuis. He locked as not allowed. The issue with the other road, Rue Robert, is that he left a stray comma in the name of the road.

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... s=60599682 - misspelled the name of the city, which is La Prairie.

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... s=60579519 - needs city name

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... 8,60636969 - should be Saint-André

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... 6,69811549 - should be Liège

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... 4,60649436 - Saint-Eugène

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=7&lat ... s=55889456 - this error report can't be fixed

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=2&lat ... TTTTTTTTFT - incorrect city names are locked, as has been that user report for a week

Also, he went into the map and re-added city names for Saint-Timothée and Melocheville, which have not existed since 2002 (they are now part of Salaberry-de-Valleyfield and Beauharnois, respectively).

I've written twice to customer support but they have done nothing about this. Now with Autoroute 30 opening, we can't attach highway ramps to local roads because they are locked.

[jeanphilippedrouin78]

https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=34386

[TruckOttr]

I''ll be unlocking it later, I am in the middle of answering over 50 emails of checking people's edits on Google map. If nth tonight for sure first thing tomorrow morning. Thanks for being virile. That's what happens when you burning the candle on both ends between wake and Google maps.

Using Google maps is out of bounds, ain't it not? Or am I misreading this?

[Webs101]

I''ll be unlocking it later, I am in the middle of answering over 50 emails of checking people's edits on Google map. If nth tonight for sure first thing tomorrow morning. Thanks for being virile. That's what happens when you burning the candle on both ends between wake and Google maps.

Using Google maps is out of bounds, ain't it not? Or am I misreading this?

Yes, yes it is out of bounds. I made that point on Nanorep, too.