Editor Version Dec 19th Official Feedback Thread

[shawndoc]

No, I'll have to give that a shot. Would have made things easier.

[skbun]

Just an update, I went back to two of them and turned the city layer on. It looks like there's either a smudge, or just the way Waze handles city borders, doesn't like the curvy twisty borders that sometimes crop up where multiple cities merge together.

I'll need to poke around later, as well as try to figure out what the official border lines are.

If anyone has a resource for finding the exact city borders in California cities, I'd appreciate it. (Real borders, not mailing address/zip code borders, which often don't match the actual city limits)
Update: Here's a city zoning map from one of the cities, to give you an idea of how messy things are in this area.
https://www.cityofindustry.org/pdf/zoningmap.pdf

Before you proceed too far, some city borders as they exist may not be completely editable.

I believe this is still true - part of the problem with city border management in the United States is that there are technically two city layers. There's the editable one that we can use to create or expand existing cities (that's how you get cities like this one: https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... TTTFTTTTFT

Then, there is a non-editable layer whose borders came from (my best estimate) the 2000 Census. Cities on this layer cannot be deleted nor their borders completely contracted. (They CAN be expanded). An example of THIS one is https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=2&lat ... TTTFTTTTFT , Lea Hill (which was annexed in 2008 to Auburn). I've put all its segments into Auburn, but as you can see, it doesn't completely want to disappear.

I think to make city border management of existing 'sticky' cities into a real going concern, the 'sticky' city layer would have to be let go, and all city borders would have to be (completely) generated by the segments with their ID. It could likely be done, but Waze would have to be the ones to make that happen.

[bgodette]

Just an update, I went back to two of them and turned the city layer on. It looks like there's either a smudge, or just the way Waze handles city borders, doesn't like the curvy twisty borders that sometimes crop up where multiple cities merge together.

I'll need to poke around later, as well as try to figure out what the official border lines are.

If anyone has a resource for finding the exact city borders in California cities, I'd appreciate it. (Real borders, not mailing address/zip code borders, which often don't match the actual city limits)
Update: Here's a city zoning map from one of the cities, to give you an idea of how messy things are in this area.
https://www.cityofindustry.org/pdf/zoningmap.pdf

Try MapQuest.

[bgodette]

Apparently it's not possible to edit Alternate street names unless a non-empty Primary street is set. This presents a minor issue when trying to clear smudges caused by alternate street names. The workaround is to set a primary name (use a nearby street so you don't create a new street object), apply, edit again to remove the alternate(s), and clear the primary name again.

[bz2012]

Can't you add another Alternate name that IS correct and then delete the one that is wrong?

[bgodette]

Can't you add another Alternate name that IS correct and then delete the one that is wrong?

Only after added a primary Street is applied. It's a WME UI prohibition.

In addition alternates don't show state or country information even tho that is part of the City (object) the Street (object) references. So smudges across states and/or countries can exist in the alternates and it's not directly visible as such in WME.

Updating WMECH include that info for the alternate list should be straight forward and I'll be doing so to my own fork this weekend.

[AlanOfTheBerg]

Can't you add another Alternate name that IS correct and then delete the one that is wrong?

Only after added a primary Street is applied. It's a WME UI prohibition.

In addition alternates don't show state or country information even tho that is part of the City (object) the Street (object) references. So smudges across states and/or countries can exist in the alternates and it's not directly visible as such in WME.

Updating WMECH include that info for the alternate list should be straight forward and I'll be doing so to my own fork this weekend.

It appears that WME will pull the correct CItyID from the primary segment even if other same-name-incorrect-cityid exists in the current location.

[bgodette]

It appears that WME will pull the correct CItyID from the primary segment even if other same-name-incorrect-cityid exists in the current location.

Except when it isn't.
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... s=62639276
The alternate Street is "Main St" in "Westlake, Other, United States". The primaryStreetID is "Main St" in "Westlake, Ohio, United States". A bunch of this stuff is likely leftover damage from Cartouche, but the problem is, is if there was *no* primaryStreetID, the alternates are uneditable in WME until one is added. Fortunately that can all be done without intermediate saves.

[AlanOfTheBerg]

It appears that WME will pull the correct CItyID from the primary segment even if other same-name-incorrect-cityid exists in the current location.

Except when it isn't.
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... s=62639276
The alternate Street is "Main St" in "Westlake, Other, United States". The primaryStreetID is "Main St" in "Westlake, Ohio, United States". A bunch of this stuff is likely leftover damage from Cartouche, but the problem is, is if there was *no* primaryStreetID, the alternates are uneditable in WME until one is added. Fortunately that can all be done without intermediate saves.

What I'm saying is that when the primary street exists and you add an alternate, WME appears to pick the same CityID as the primary. If the PrimaryID doesn't exist, of course WME can't pick it as the primary.

The "can't update alternate streets when primary ID not set" is on the list.

[bgodette]

What I'm saying is that when the primary street exists and you add an alternate, WME appears to pick the same CityID as the primary.

Which is how it works now. Does nothing for fixing the damage done by Cartouche in the past, and being unable to see what state+country the alternates belong to is a bit of an annoyance.