Double tracking - New Zealand

[ispyisail]

Hi all

It is becoming clear that new waze editors worldwide/New Zealand are becoming trigger happy with double tracking.

I've tried to contact a couple of these wazers via PM but with no response.

I've emailed waze support about this

New users double-tracking is an issue not exclusive to NZ and the best way to deal with it is to delete their new tracks, and contact them via PMs.

If they are not cooperative or not responsive, please let us know.

Best regards,

Yonatan

I would like to nominate "bopfrog" for my first complaint

Can get somebody else to confirm problems with this editor!

[pcp192]

Another issue in Auckland (possibly other parts of the country as well) where new editors are creating at grade connectors at intersections. This has become a significant problem with a large number of intersections edited. The issue with this is that the map looks untidy at those intersections and the TTS is not correct, generally giving 'keep left' instructions where it should clearly be 'turn left'. I have PM'd a few of these editors and had no response.

Also, I'm getting frustrated with people marking map errors as fixed when they are not. I mark a number of errors around Auckland (including intersections as above) and usually the same editors are marking them as fixed. The most they do is make it worse.

[ispyisail]

So what's the plan then?

It wouldn't be so bad if they talked on the forum or replied to PM's

[pcp192]

Agreed.

What did Waze support say they can do to help? If we report an particular editor for repeated issues what can/will they do?

[ispyisail]

they didn't say

just what was posted above

[ispyisail]

you know the plus side to not having many wazers up here also means there aren't many editors...........roads don't get broken

[kiwilad30]

My feeling is that this is a problem that is only going to continue to grow as more and more people start using Waze -
imho, the way to deal with this kind of problem is to introduce a more restricted editor permission structure. It probably goes against the original waze culture.

Another problem i've noticed (is it a problem?) is some users deleting and re-creating well-established roads, i can only assume to gain points for what it's worth...
and yes, there's the good old 'edit the map to match the aerial imagery' muppets

[pcp192]

Another problem i've noticed (is it a problem?) is some users deleting and re-creating well-established roads, i can only assume to gain points for what it's worth...

I wonder if some people do this because they think it's easier than editing the road?

A better structure to manage permissions would be great. One consideration then would be who determines and controls the permissions? There would need to be measurable criteria (e.g. accuracy and completeness of map editing) to be used as a basis for assigning rights/permissions and the people 'in charge' should be impartial with no interest in reserving high level rights for themselves exclusively.

The flip side is that we accept Waze is an open system and manage as best we can with guidance and coaching for new editors.

[amartinnz]

It would be good if there was a way to report map problems but mark them as private, so only the person reporting can then see them in the editor, or perhaps use the level system so only editors the same level or above can fix them.

Most of my problem reports are just for my own reference so I can fix the problem later, but often within 12 hours someone marks it as fixed, even though they have not fixed the problem. I have just finished fixing SH1 in Taupiri where a problem report I made was misunderstood, and the satellite photo was used to re-map the road...

[pcp192]

Yeah, that can be very frustrating. It happens a lot in Auckland and there must be people out there who don't work during the week because any errors I log during the day are usually marked as fixed before I get to the map. Most often the real problem has not been solved

At least we get an email saying it's been fixed with a permalink so that we can go back and complete the job. Having personal error logs would be a great idea though.