Freeway vs. Major Hwy vs. Minor Hwy (US)

[mapcat]

Great idea about Houston; interesting results. I think they have a primary street addiction there They do pop out better on the map, but given that Waze has said primary is not favored over street, is there a benefit?

Not yet. Some of us are pushing for them to be favored over streets, however.

[jasonh300]

Nothing at grade, and certainly "felt" like a freeway!
Great idea about Houston; interesting results. I think they have a primary street addiction there They do pop out better on the map, but given that Waze has said primary is not favored over street, is there a benefit?

Readability of the map, for now. That's the #1 reason to not get rid of all of the seemingly unnecessary street types. For the same reason why there are different color roads in an Atlas. If there are too many of any particular street type, they won't serve any purpose, but you should be able to judge from the size of the street, number of lanes, and the GPS tracks.

Just do the best you can with the data you have...it's still going to be better than unedited basemap. If the local Wazers go from their current frustration in not being able to route anywhere to a few minor annoyances that you couldn't figure out, maybe they'll be compelled to get in there and do some editing themselves.

I just hit a new outlying suburb of New Orleans that has never had a single segment edited, with the exception of a few spots where IGN editors tried to fix update requests (there are about a hundred URs in this concentrated area). My only real knowledge of this area is along the highways and primaries, but I can tell you that right now, the whole area is un-navigable. I'm working with aerials that are probably from the summer, and GPS tracks that are about as good as anywhere. As of the next map update or two, Waze should operate there smoothly.

Once I clear out all the URs, any mistakes I've made should show up in new URs.

[jenncard]

Just do the best you can with the data you have...it's still going to be better than unedited basemap. If the local Wazers go from their current frustration in not being able to route anywhere to a few minor annoyances that you couldn't figure out, maybe they'll be compelled to get in there and do some editing themselves.

Obviously people are driving there, but doubt if anyone is navigating. Shockingly few URs given that everything was junctioned to everything else... except when it was junctioned with nothing. But, it certainly has been a heck a lot more interesting than setting directionality & turns on neighborhood after neighborhood

Thanks for the feedback, guys, and I'll do what I can in the limited drive edit area I have. BTW, has anyone noticed things like this when trying to reference the BGS?

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[WeeeZer14]

BTW, has anyone noticed things like this when trying to reference the BGS?

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I've only seen that with stand alone shields I think. Google's face detection thinks there is a face there and blurs it out. Silly Google

[jasonh300]

Or it thinks it's a hubcap, or a stopsign...the GSV pictures were awesome when they first came out, but then some guy got caught at his mistress's house and filed a lawsuit and now we have this.

[MReiser4670]

Obviously people are driving there, but doubt if anyone is navigating. Shockingly few URs given that everything was junctioned to everything else... except when it was junctioned with nothing. But, it certainly has been a heck a lot more interesting than setting directionality & turns on neighborhood after neighborhood

Thanks for the feedback, guys, and I'll do what I can in the limited drive edit area I have. BTW, has anyone noticed things like this when trying to reference the BGS?

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Obviously you already received some feedback on how to handle the side access roads for the Freeways in the area, but I just wanted to show you 2 Freeways in Philadelphia where we have set it up the same way and it works out well:

I-676 / Vine Street Expy
PA-63 / Woodhaven Rd

For as complicated as these setups can be, they appear to work nicely. The Primary Street designation (as opposed to Minor or Major Highway) means the driver will stay on the Highway for the maximum amount of time before being routed off, and more importantly, they're visible on the client at high speeds (65+ mph).

[Spil]

Thanks for the feedback, guys, and I'll do what I can in the limited drive edit area I have. BTW, has anyone noticed things like this when trying to reference the BGS?

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I don't know if every state has a site like this, but I've found Upstate NY Roads to be a tremendous help with exit names and numbers in my area (even though it's not 100% accurate ... I've had to send the site operator a correction or two already ). It lists every road in upstate NY, and for all limited-access highways, it lists the exits by number, name, and road (as well as parking areas, rest stops, speed limits, and other semi-useful information).
There's a separate site for New York City Roads, and Pennsylvania has the Pennsylvania Highways site. I haven't seen any others yet, but that's because I haven't looked that far out of my area. (In another 63000 edits, I'll have some incentive to look further. )

[WeeeZer14]

I've previously posted nycroads in the thread about official map sources stickied in this forum (with the disclaimer that it isn't official).

As mentioned in the past few days, we need to get that list into the wiki.

[jenncard]

There is more I'd like to discuss and learn about these issues, so I'm stopping my own hijack of this thread and created a new one specifically on freeways and access roads

[MReiser4670]

I've previously posted nycroads in the thread about official map sources stickied in this forum (with the disclaimer that it isn't official).

As mentioned in the past few days, we need to get that list into the wiki.

Don't forget phillyroads.com, also by Steve Anderson.