Points, scoreboard and ranking problems

[Dave2084]

The very big USA ones may come from cookie eating but there are some larger scores elsewhere too that look more like map editing.

E-mail the username to Dror and let him look into it. The cookie eating thing is obviously not legitimate...if a US Wazer got in a car and specifically aimed to just hit roads with cookies, it would probably take several years to cover 20,000 miles of them.

After 2 years of Waze I have 2,137,280.3 feet of cookies (404 miles) most of that was gained pre-basemap when there were very few users on Waze and there were cookies on major routes (which I'd normally paved the day/week before). Certainly the state of the UK map does not allow that much in the way of cookies now. I rarely pick up any these days with the exception of when the new A46 opened which was only 13 miles ....

[edit: made a mistake in my sums!]

[marcedli]

just in addition to all above

last week I've earned 69121 points -mostly (99%) with map editing.

it could have been more -legally

what I've done:

about 6 hrs/day map editing for five days on a map where there's no basemap - building villages and towns from the scratch

method:
1. draw streets
2. enable all turns, make them two way
save
3. select them, give the town name
save
4. individual street names.

maybe this way it gives more points (dunno), but this way I can be assured that I do not miss any street.

everyday getting 6-8 750 candies for it.

so imho it's possible to earn about 100.000 points a week with map editing, but that's a lot of work, and I cannot imagine someone who edits for 10-12 hrs a day every day for 200k.

cheers

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[marcedli]

imho it can't be that hard to write a script which identifies intersections, move them some pixels then save.

this way a lot of points can be accumulated automatically since you get points for every segment you update.

afaik waze devs working on this issue, but the only way to get out the cheaters is the monitoring everyone or random who earn points above a certain limit (eg. 15.000 a day or 50.000 a week)

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[dmcconachie]

In /my/ humble opinion 100k, and even 70k, in one week is not possible if you are taking care with what you are doing, ensuring things are correct and not using other, copyrighted, sources!

Some of the top editors on here, and I don't mean by points, have been editing for a long long time and getting nowhere near scores like that. My highest ever weekly score is around 27k and involved editing for roughly 6 hours a day for 6/7 days! To suggest the effort I have put in over almost 2 years of dedication can be achieved in 6-10 weeks is nothing short of insulting.

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[marcedli]

In /my/ humble opinion 100k, and even 70k, in one week is not possible if you are taking care with what you are doing, ensuring things are correct and not using other, copyrighted, sources!

Some of the top editors on here, and I don't mean by points, have been editing for a long long time and getting nowhere near scores like that. My highest ever weekly score is around 27k and involved editing for roughly 6 hours a day for 6/7 days! To suggest the effort I have put in over almost 2 years of dedication can be achieved in 6-10 weeks is nothing short of insulting.

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nope, I am using the bing's road layer, anyone can check that.

it can happen that something is going on with scoring, but I do not care. My only goal is to have my AM county 100 percent navigable. If points are coming, than coming...not that what counts for me.

however the score between 20.000 and 30.000 is the average for me, only the last week was so high.

the speed difference between papyrus and cartouche is really significant. I can draw almost twice faster with papyrus. So imho you cannot easily compare today's editing practice (= points) with something a year ago.

and remember that an urban area is totally different than a village where there are no one way roads or turn restrictions...so please do not assume that I'm not editing carefully.

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[dmcconachie]

You're not supposed to use Bing's road layer, it is the covered by copyright just like any of the others!

As for Papyrus vs Cartouche, you're absolutely right that the former is far quicker. Back when we only had Cartouche it was common for scores <10k to be top world scorer!

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[marcedli]

You're not supposed to use Bing's road layer, it is the covered by copyright just like any of the others!

As for Papyrus vs Cartouche, you're absolutely right that the former is far quicker. Back when we only had Cartouche it was common for scores <10k to be top world scorer!

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maybe it's a misunderstanding - I use the simple road view on the editor and rarely the aerial image

but what you wrote is strange for me....the microsoft has interests in waze and provide the aerial layer too.... and they do not give their street service?....i thought the street view is that one ...strange

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[bgodette]

but what you wrote is strange for me....the microsoft has interests in waze and provide the aerial layer too.... and they do not give their street service?....i thought the street view is that one ...strange

Their Road layer (street names, geometry, addresses, and POI) is licensed from NavTeq, and is covered by copyright. Their StreetSide imagery (which is horrible) is their own thing and may or may not have been licensed to Waze for use.

[Brshk1]

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Some of the top editors on here, and I don't mean by points, have been editing for a long long time and getting nowhere near scores like that. My highest ever weekly score is around 27k and involved editing for roughly 6 hours a day for 6/7 days! To suggest the effort I have put in over almost 2 years of dedication can be achieved in 6-10 weeks is nothing short of insulting.

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From my point of view, it is not only the bulk amount of points what makes a great wazer. And that applies particularly well to you, Darren, and the other champs and others, to whom many of us are really grateful.

[marcedli]

but what you wrote is strange for me....the microsoft has interests in waze and provide the aerial layer too.... and they do not give their street service?....i thought the street view is that one ...strange

Their Road layer (street names, geometry, addresses, and POI) is licensed from NavTeq, and is covered by copyright. Their StreetSide imagery (which is horrible) is their own thing and may or may not have been licensed to Waze for use.

thx for clarifying this for me!

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