Traffic Avoidance

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Traffic Avoidance

Postby pocmatos » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:32 pm

Hi,

Can someone pls explain me how traffic avoidance works?
I have often ran into traffic with waze even though it's supposed to know about it and re-route.

Also, it does usually show that there's where I am at but after I am in traffic it's quite useless cause by then I can't re-route.
Am I missing something? Maybe some option I should enable?

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Re: Traffic Avoidance

Postby WeeeZer14 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:51 pm

Someone has to find the traffic first for Waze to know about it. It sounds like you may be that "lucky" person often. The more users near you, the less likely you will be first. But if you are one of only a few users, you will probably be first most of the time.
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Re: Traffic Avoidance

Postby pocmatos » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:06 pm

WeeeZer14 wrote:Someone has to find the traffic first for Waze to know about it. It sounds like you may be that "lucky" person often. The more users near you, the less likely you will be first. But if you are one of only a few users, you will probably be first most of the time.


Is it considered traffic when waze detects that I am going 20mph on a motorway or do I have to specifically mark it as such?
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Re: Traffic Avoidance

Postby dmcconachie » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:42 pm

pocmatos wrote:
WeeeZer14 wrote:Someone has to find the traffic first for Waze to know about it. It sounds like you may be that "lucky" person often. The more users near you, the less likely you will be first. But if you are one of only a few users, you will probably be first most of the time.


Is it considered traffic when waze detects that I am going 20mph on a motorway or do I have to specifically mark it as such?

It will be considered traffic if you are travelling notably slower than the usual average speed for that road segment. Soft rules exist for newer segments as to what speeds will trigger but over time these will be overwritten as more reliable averages are formed.

Manual traffic reports do not affect the routing.
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Re: Traffic Avoidance

Postby olestas » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:52 pm

Hmm.. now I have one thought.
There is a road, which often has horrible traffic. So waze learns its average speed (as very low), and after that it wont show that this road has traffic? Because everyone will drive at "new" average speed, which includes traffic :D No?
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Re: Re: Traffic Avoidance

Postby dmcconachie » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:54 pm

olestas wrote:Hmm.. now I have one thought.
There is a road, which often has horrible traffic. So waze learns its average speed (as very low), and after that it wont show that this road has traffic? Because everyone will drive at "new" average speed, which includes traffic :D No?

Presumably it won't have those same average speeds throughout the day though. The averages are carved into 10 minute intervals.

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Re: Traffic Avoidance

Postby pocmatos » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:02 pm

dmcconachie wrote:
pocmatos wrote:
WeeeZer14 wrote:Someone has to find the traffic first for Waze to know about it. It sounds like you may be that "lucky" person often. The more users near you, the less likely you will be first. But if you are one of only a few users, you will probably be first most of the time.


Is it considered traffic when waze detects that I am going 20mph on a motorway or do I have to specifically mark it as such?

It will be considered traffic if you are travelling notably slower than the usual average speed for that road segment. Soft rules exist for newer segments as to what speeds will trigger but over time these will be overwritten as more reliable averages are formed.

Manual traffic reports do not affect the routing.


What's the point of manual traffics reports then (if they don't affect routing)?
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Re: Traffic Avoidance

Postby dmcconachie » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:05 pm

pocmatos wrote:What's the point of manual traffics reports then (if they don't affect routing)?

They slightly increase the chance of an automated report showing plus can give context to any jam that is already there, ie you can put an explanation in.
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Re: Traffic Avoidance

Postby WeeeZer14 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:57 pm

If a road with a high speed limit ALWAYS crawls to a slow speed each and every day at the same time, then Waze will probably NOT show it as traffic on the client screen since it is "normal".

This does not impact routing since Waze knows it is slow and has used it in calculations to arrive at the best route to present to the drivers.

This can be thought of as a good thing for most users since in an urban area (say New York and northern NJ) almost EVERY road would be red at rush hour. So it makes sense to only indicate the non-normal traffic jams.
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Re: Traffic Avoidance

Postby Agamicox » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:57 pm

Question on the same. So here is a scenario and follow up questions:
I want to go from A to B. Started my Navigation and picked on of, let's say, 3 routes which is fastest for me at the time or I just prefer taking it.

1) Does Waze give you any notification when it re-routes you?
2) Is it asking permission to re-route to 'faster', 'avoiding traffic road' way?

I'm from Dublin in Ireland didn't see any of the above. Maybe there are not enough users... but can someone from USA explain how Waze acts in these situations? I want to know, because: Let's say I am almost at Point B (5 or so KM's) and Waze decides to guide me around just to avoid traffic for last 5 or so KM of my journey and making me circling around instead of waiting ~10 minutes and being where i need?

Please just explain me how this works? :roll:
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