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Wazing offline

Postby mapcat » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:57 pm

Since all the topics about this are about a year old, I'm wondering if anything's changed. From my experience, it seems that they have, but not in a good way.

Last week I was in some really remote areas where Waze had not yet been. All roads unmunched, and many unmapped. Looked like a great opportunity. There was no 3G coverage, but the place where I stayed had WiFi, so I opened the app while I was connected, and then set out. Recorded at least 10km of new roads THAT GOOGLE MAPS DON'T EVEN SHOW and munched many more than that. Everything showed up on my iPad. Went back and kept the app running until I was sure I had WiFi again (I checked by submitting an update request). Turned it off, and turned it on a few hours later. The red roads were still present. I routed myself to a location a few blocks away and headed out again. It showed my progress as usual, and recalculated when I went a different direction. Again I kept it on until I was back to WiFi again, then closed it. A few days later, in another location without 3G, I used it again, and the roads recorded the first time still showed.

But now that I'm home, everything's gone. When I look at archived routes from the first day, I get lots of this:
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I really wasn't just wandering around in the street with the app running, despite appearances.

So, questions:
  • Did I fail to do something that would have allowed recorded roads to be uploaded?
  • Does "Start Waze while you have WiFi and don't turn it off until you have WiFi again" no longer work? (it's worked for me in the past)
  • Is there anything I can do to get these routes back so I can add the roads?
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Re: Wazing offline

Postby Timbones » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:00 pm

A few months ago, my client (2.0) wasn't working with 3G, so I had to rely on having a WiFi connection at the end of my journey before I excited the app. My archive showed all the routes I did like this.

I didn't need to have a WiFi connection at the start of the journey though - just the end.

I did something similar in France... did most my wazing offline to save cost, then switched on my mobile connection as I got close to my destination, ensuring I was logged on to the network before exiting. (It's amazing how much longer the battery lasts too!)
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Re: Wazing offline

Postby mapcat » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:40 am

Timbones wrote:A few months ago, my client (2.0) wasn't working with 3G, so I had to rely on having a WiFi connection at the end of my journey before I excited the app. My archive showed all the routes I did like this.

I didn't need to have a WiFi connection at the start of the journey though - just the end.

I did something similar in France... did most my wazing offline to save cost, then switched on my mobile connection as I got close to my destination, ensuring I was logged on to the network before exiting. (It's amazing how much longer the battery lasts too!)

Sooooo.....what did I do wrong?
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Re: Wazing offline

Postby RickW-NC » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:31 am

From what my friend tells me, it worked ok until the last appstore release of Waze. Although the other apps in the iPod would reconnect at the next hotspot, Waze never would. But if yours is reconnecting, you should see the network monitor (if turned on) spew out numbers until it is happy. A long time ago I could not get it to work until I turned on data compression (which I think was around the same time as a new IOS and a new Waze came out) so I assumed the buffer handling was different. I finally bought a hot-spot and then later upgraded to a iPhone so I don't really have any first hand information now. My biggest wifi route was about 60 miles. I think your routes are probably lost but I have had some 'lost' routes pop up so who knows.
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Re: Wazing offline

Postby foxitrot » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:47 pm

Is it at all possible to use the current Symbian client 2.1.99.114 offline? If I cancel the prompt for a network connection, the app immediately terminates. The same happens if I try to start waze using WiFi, after leaving its coverage waze immediately complains about a lost connection and prompts for a new one.

(However I know that the client is capable of running and even navigating (using stored mapping data), if it is temporarily unable to create connection to servers, while it already is online - rarely this happens. But as soon as it notices getting offline...)
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Re: Wazing offline

Postby Faster345 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:21 pm

Timbones wrote:I didn't need to have a WiFi connection at the start of the journey though - just the end.


This seems to be the case with me. I use Waze on my iPad(3) with no data plan just WiFi. When I leave my house (with WiFi) the app works fine even giving me voice navigation all the way to my work (with no WiFi). When I leave my work (with no WiFi) it gives me voice navigation all the way home (with WiFi). When I look at my driving statistics it always shows my return trips home but not my outgoing trips to work. So yes, in my experience you need a connection at the end of the trip for the trips to upload. But I am thankful this will give me GPS navigation without a connection, something other paid apps will not do.

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Re: Wazing offline

Postby gettingthere » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:54 pm

Faster345 wrote:But I am thankful this will give me GPS navigation without a connection, something other paid apps will not do.


Although you don't get any of the benefits of the real time traffic, automatic rerouting do to traffic, accurate ETA, being able to contribute traffic data and reports that other Wazers can utilize, etc.

In addition you will be missing out on new features that are currently in Beta such as gas prices, coupons and promotions for local businesses, etc.

To get the most out of Waze you need a constant data connection.
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Re: Wazing offline

Postby Faster345 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:42 pm

gettingthere wrote:Although you don't get any of the benefits of the real time traffic, automatic rerouting do to traffic, accurate ETA, being able to contribute traffic data and reports that other Wazers can utilize, etc. In addition you will be missing out on new features that are currently in Beta such as gas prices, coupons and promotions for local businesses, etc. To get the most out of Waze you need a constant data connection.


Yes, I realize this but since a constant data connection = expensive data plan and I can get live traffic for free with my Garmin GPS. Plus I get gas at a station on my street. So for me, offline is the waze to go. Cheers.
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Re: Wazing offline

Postby gettingthere » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:33 pm

Faster345 wrote:Yes, I realize this but since a constant data connection = expensive data plan and I can get live traffic for free with my Garmin GPS. Plus I get gas at a station on my street. So for me, offline is the waze to go. Cheers.


So why not just use your Garmin then? What does Waze offer to you if you can't use any of the features that require a data connection?
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Re: Wazing offline

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:14 pm

How does the Garmin connect to servers to get live traffic data? Satellite? I don't use them, so I'm really wondering. (And the Garmin wasn't/isn't free.)
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