Learning?

[CBenson]

Exactly. But I suspect that most users don't know that it is broken and expect that they can simply drive their preferred route several times and then they will have the option to choose it.

I'm just saying that jonycp does have reason to believe:

The application should, based on my history alone, determine that this a viable alternate route.

I am in no way disputing that driving the 15 min slower route a few times is very likely to be well worth the trouble.

[ottonomy]

I have a workaround for this problem. I'm sure that there are others who do the same, but I haven't heard it mentioned in this discussion:

At the point along my preferred route which is the farthest deviation from the route that Waze always suggests, I create a favorite, either with a street address, or by tapping and holding on the map at that point. The next time I want to take MY route, I choose my usual destination, wait for Waze to plan the route its way, and then "Add a Stop", at which point I enter my off-course favorite. In most cases, Waze will then map out the whole route the way I like it. It's an extra step, but it's effective, and sometimes this approach has helped Waze to finally see it my way, apparently since this is causing Waze's routing servers to actually calculate my entire route, rather than only the portions of it that are left when I have refused to follow its suggestions.

[jonycp]

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The only assumption we can make is that there is not heavy Waze usage in your area yet. When we recommend that people drive the slower route so Waze routing servers can learn, that is assuming that there isn't anyone else on the road using Waze driving that route. When there is heavy Waze usage in an area, Waze will get that data from other drivers and learn that it's slower without you having to drive it.

What city are you in?

I am in Hanover, PA, and I drive to York, PA. I agree there are probably not many other Wazers in the area at this time. I don't see any other driver icons on the route I take either way.

[jasonh300]

I am in Hanover, PA, and I drive to York, PA. I agree there are probably not many other Wazers in the area at this time. I don't see any other driver icons on the route I take either way.

That's how it was here when I first started using Waze. There's been a significant increase in the number of users over the past year. I never have to do any "training" to manipulate routes anymore.

Try saving a "via" point on the map about half-way on your preferred route and then use that as a stop. See if it routes properly, or if it does something crazy.

[fvwazing]

Ceterum Censeo:
This whole thread would never have happened if the function was called "Learn my frequent destinations" instead of "Learn my preferred routes".

[yrrabsille]

Fvwazing,
I don't care what you call it, that's not my gripe. I started this thread because my settings are set to "fastest" and it won't even acknowledge the fastest route, not even as an alternate. Even though it takes me TO work this way every day, it refuses, even resists this route on my way home.
Coming up on 2 years of teaching it all the routes, and still nothing.
Barry

[AlanOfTheBerg]

It is routing using the fastest route it knows about. As the FAQ says, it's all about the math. (Though there is also preference given to road types base on total route length. Not sure if that comes into play with your commute.)


iOS and Tapatalk have conspired to screw up this post.

[fvwazing]

I started this thread because my settings are set to "fastest" and it won't even acknowledge the fastest route, not even as an alternate.

Ok, just reread the whole thread. I should have said something along the line of "The second part of this thread would never have happened...". I did not see the thread was hijacked!

[yrrabsille]

I don't think it's really been hijacked, it's just spawned good conversation about potential routing problems.

Alan, I'll pay more attention tonight to what the comparison is on mileage, but it seems to me that Fastest Route should take the fastest route, regardless of road types. That's kind of been my gripe from the start, it puts too much priority on highways.

As I mentioned before, this one really baffles me ESPECIALLY since it actually prefers to take me TO work this way and yet it so actively RESISTS this route on the way home.

[dirgela]

Now, to this day, there is still a route I prefer to take which is slower than the fastest route. I know it is, but it doesn't go over a mountain which is often slippery with ice or snow and unexpected accidents. So, every morning, I do still need to select my preferred route from the alternate routes list.

In this case you actually don't need routing at all.