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Re: GPS layer not updating evidence

Postby WeeeZer14 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:50 pm

jasonh300 wrote:I get the feeling they're going to try to put out a new version of Papyrus before the Jan. 14 meeting in Palo Alto.


But then they risk the attendees being so involved in checking out the new editor release that we miss our flights! ;)
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Re: GPS layer not updating evidence

Postby foxitrot » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:15 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
foxitrot wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:... the next Papyrus release and GPS layer fix will likely be the same thing. ;)

Need to fix Papyrus' GPS layer for this? Cartouche's does not show any recent GPS traces as well. This whole thread was about no recent GPS traces appearing anymore - I doubt any bug in both editing apps would cause this...

I understand it doesn't immediately make sense. But it does.

Specifically?

I could at most imagine that a few weeks ago Waze started to store the GPS traces in some different format, being unable (or not willing) to convert the data on-the-fly during transfer into the old format for the current editors' versions, and after releasing a newer Papyrus they will switch to deliver just the newer traces' data. But something like this is not about making sense, but about missing informations.
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Re: GPS layer not updating evidence

Postby CBenson » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:26 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:The next version of Papyrus, release tbd, should have an updated gps points layer.

Do you guys have any idea when this will be now?
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Re: GPS layer not updating evidence

Postby Timbones » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:38 pm

The last response I got from Waze on this was "Hopefully in a week or two." [Jan 12th]
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Re: GPS layer not updating evidence

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:10 pm

CBenson wrote:Do you guys have any idea when this will be now?

I would be surprised if it was in January, but they are on an aggressive timeline to remove Cartouche from availability, even still missing some features. At the Palo Alto meetup, we let them know the essential features we think still need to get into Papyrus (rename coming) before Cartouche is no longer available. I would love to give you the short list right now, but it's not in my notes.
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Re: GPS layer not updating evidence

Postby Dave2084 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:42 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:they are on an aggressive timeline to remove Cartouche from availability, even still missing some features. At the Palo Alto meetup, we let them know the essential features we think still need to get into Papyrus (rename coming) before Cartouche is no longer available. I would love to give you the short list right now, but it's not in my notes.


Yikes! :shock:

Going off topic a little ....

There are so many obscure things that I revert to cartouche for!

Some that spring to mind:
1. Removal of stray nodes inside roundabouts that cause the notorious double roundabout error in the client (I wish you could still see them but at least you can select them in cartouche, there's no way of doing this in papyrus). The UK has so many roundabouts it's a significant issue here.
2. The UK country boundary is wrong in may of the UK's coastal areas, so even as a country manager I can't edit these roads in papyrus, strangely I can in cartouche. UK Forum Thread
3. Random roads that you can't edit in papyrus, until first you've edited them in cartouche.

And of course:
4. Update Requests.
5. Finding area managers.
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Re: GPS layer not updating evidence

Postby CBenson » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:50 pm

So is the GPS layer updating in the new release of the editor? The new release certainly shows more recent tracks than I could see before the update, but the tracks don't seem current to date. For instance the northbound bridge here was openned on Dec. 18, 2011 and the southbound bridge on Jan. 8, 2012, yet there are no GPS tracks for the new bridges. Do we expect this to improve in the new release of the editor?
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Re: GPS layer not updating evidence

Postby gettingthere » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:56 pm

CBenson wrote:So is the GPS layer updating in the new release of the editor? The new release certainly shows more recent tracks than I could see before the update, but the tracks don't seem current to date. For instance the northbound bridge here was openned on Dec. 18, 2011 and the southbound bridge on Jan. 8, 2012, yet there are no GPS tracks for the new bridges. Do we expect this to improve in the new release of the editor?


The latest that we heard on this (with the Beta version of the new editor) was:

* The GPS tracks layer is independent in the new Waze Map Editor, the previous version of Papyrus, and Cartouche_old
* The GPS tracks layer in the new Waze Map Editor is more up to date than the previous version of Papyrus
* That Waze needs to run a process on a regular basis to Update the GPS layer in the new Waze Map Editor. Unfortunately we had not received any confirmation that this is done.

So we don't know if the GPS points layer is being updated regularly, yet.
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Re: GPS layer not updating evidence

Postby bgodette » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:12 pm

Doesn't look like there's GPS points in my area newer than mid December when this overpass opened.
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Re: GPS layer not updating evidence

Postby gettingthere » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:20 pm

bgodette wrote:Doesn't look like there's GPS points in my area newer than mid December when this overpass opened.


That sounds about right. Likely GPS points were last updated around December 19th (the date the Waze released the Waze Map Editor Beta).

The GPS points layer on the World server Waze Map Editor may not be the same in regards to how updated the GPS points are.
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