mikecash wrote:Yes, and it is wretchedly incomplete for Japan.
There are several splendid paid and free map and navigation app options available for Japan, with extraordinary accuracy and functionality, which I strongly suspect Waze will NEVER have. There is no language localization, they seem clueless to the fact we don't use street names and house numbers, there is ZERO basemap (we do it all from scratch), and even for a major city like Tokyo you will never see more than two or three Wazers active so it is useless for traffic information. When I first checked out the forum, I was amazed at all the posts about problems with the navigation function....because Waze is so poorly implemented here it never even dawned on me that it HAS a navigation function. Over here we mess around with Waze pretty much for the same reason you might while away some idle time pointlessly working on a jigsaw puzzle.
They are crap for map or point updates, the app is bloody useless (at least here) for what it purports to be, and the users apparently do 99% of the work on the thing. Yeah, I called it a half-assed app. And that's a charitable assessment of it.
dmcconachie wrote:Until such a time as waze can actually capitalise our hard work then financially speaking it has no value and so free or cheap sources are all you can expect.
As for basemaps, it's still possible to work without one. I had my local city working pretty well before the UK basemap was introduced. It takes time. It takes patience!
And how should it differentiate? It just downloads the aerial tile from Bing - if the tile is crap it has no way of knowing it.mikecash wrote:I fear you may misunderstand me. My disparaging remarks are about Waze....not the Bing aerial photos. If there are no other free options out there, then the editor shouldn't make it look as though there are.
mikecash wrote:Uhhhh......I know that. Every inch of roadway in the Japan Waze map is user-generated. Unlike your country, I believe our prospects of someday having a basemap are very poor. We also suffer from tons and tons of spurious crap and fragments on the map and from editors who make a mess out of things (half my edits are cleaning up the junk and errors put in by a guy who is area manager for about half the country). I seriously don't know why Waze even bothered opening up here; the implementation would have to improve tenfold to rise to the level of being merely farcical. As I mentioned earlier, we do it for points and the idle distraction like you would get from working a jigsaw puzzle. It is not now nor is it ever likely to be an even marginally useful map/navi app here.
mikecash wrote:Thanks for further illustrating my point about how half-assed Waze is.
1. They didn't even do the bare minimum of offering a Japanese interface for the app.
2. If Bing is my only choice, the editor shouldn't make it appear otherwise.
3. It isn't incumbent upon users to do their work by going around hunting up a basemap for them.
Any day now I expect to receive a notification from Waze giving us a schedule telling each of us what days we are expected to come clean their offices and make coffee.
mikecash wrote:I fear you may misunderstand me. My disparaging remarks are about Waze....not the Bing aerial photos. If there are no other free options out there, then the editor shouldn't make it look as though there are.
dmcconachie wrote:You're welcome to pay for the service you clearly expect by using one of many other offerings on the market!
mikecash wrote: As I mentioned earlier, we do it for points and the idle distraction like you would get from working a jigsaw puzzle.
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