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Re: Navigation included a closed communities

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:47 pm

CBenson wrote:Is there any disadvantage to making all the roads in a gated community "private roads?" The penalty for private roads doesn't seem to be as strong as "parking lot roads."

Wasn't there a thread recently where a private business/government location Waze routed through as a short-cut, but when setting all the roads to private, the editor said that routing was odd within the site then, similar to parking lot roads, using the least-segment routing?
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Re: Navigation included a closed communities

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:33 pm

Turn restrictions can be opened automatically. That may or may not be the case at the Goddard entrance. Unsure if locking segments can prevent this.
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Navigation included a closed communities

Postby avarfe68 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:29 am

Sometimes, when I used navigation mode (using a favorite), WAZE use a streets passing thru closed or gated communities. How can I change in the map and fix the error?

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Re: Navigation included a closed communities

Postby bgodette » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:48 am

avarfe68 wrote:Sometimes, when I used navigation mode (using a favorite), WAZE use a streets passing thru closed or gated communities. How can I change in the map and fix the error?

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Change the road type of each segment that is access into and out of the gated community to Private Road as a first step. That generally adds enough additional cost to solve such issues while still allowing someone to route to/from a location inside the community.
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Re: Navigation included a closed communities

Postby bgodette » Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:48 pm

CBenson wrote:Is there any disadvantage to making all the roads in a gated community "private roads?" The penalty for private roads doesn't seem to be as strong as "parking lot roads."
I'm not sure. There was a thread about a campus in Florida (I believe it was a NASA campus so look around Cape Canaveral) that all internals were set to Private Road, it may still be that way so is a reasonable place to do testing with the Live Map and client.
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Re: Re: Navigation included a closed communities

Postby bgodette » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:09 pm

jenncard wrote:Poop. Only just now realized that my AM area falls off right in the middle of the closed area... :evil:

Here's hoping that tjreo, who actually DOES have AM here, can give this a whirl and find out how this works!

Got a link? If it's where I'm guessing, there might be an editor recruitment opertunity.

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Re: Navigation included a closed communities

Postby CBenson » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:46 am

Is there any disadvantage to making all the roads in a gated community "private roads?" The penalty for private roads doesn't seem to be as strong as "parking lot roads."
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Re: Navigation included a closed communities

Postby CBenson » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:33 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Wasn't there a thread recently where a private business/government location Waze routed through as a short-cut, but when setting all the roads to private, the editor said that routing was odd within the site then, similar to parking lot roads, using the least-segment routing?


There was my thread a little while back where I suggested this. But after further editing concluded that the private roads did not have that effect. That's why I was wondering if there is any reason not to use all private roads.
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Re: Navigation included a closed communities

Postby CBenson » Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:41 pm

Hmm, looking back at my thread about NASA's Goddard campus, I see that waze again routes through the campus. The turn restrictions have been changed to allow turns onto the campus. Thus, it seems the private road designation here is not enough to prevent routing through the campus.

This highlights two improvements I would like to see in the editor. 1) The ability to annotate edits. 2) The ability to see who made the last changes to turn restrictions (here there are signs of both a new editor and an ign editor in the area).
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Re: Navigation included a closed communities

Postby CBenson » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:46 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Turn restrictions can be opened automatically. That may or may not be the case at the Goddard entrance. Unsure if locking segments can prevent this.


At the time I suggest this might be a problem and received the response:
jasonm128 wrote:My understanding (at least for the time being) is that the auto-correction algorithms are not supposed to change junctions where the turns have been manually restricted. See: Editing a junction locks it


Is this not true now?
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