Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

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Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

Postby gettingthere » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:14 am

jenncard wrote:Seriously, though. Just so we are clear, I can do nothing here. Barely in/out of my driving edit range, plus I'm still a lowly old lvl(3)


Well you could always request AM there :)

Not lowly at all. (3) isn't trivial. Lots if work to get that editor rank.
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Re: Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

Postby gettingthere » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:23 pm

HealthyYoungblood wrote:This brings up something that I was wondering. I want to contact someone editing in my area to find out if he is putting separating lines on roads that are already split in two. I thought that I saw something somewhere about how to contact other AMs, but I can't find it, now.
Is it possible that the system may somehow be automatically adding separating lines to those roads?


The separating line is only a visual in the map editor. It doesn't show in the Waze Application and doesn't serve any function in regards to routing. In addition, from what we heard at the Palo Alto Wazer Meet Up, Waze is not planning to add it into the new map editor.

So basically what I am saying is that you don't have to worry about adding the separating line when editing in the old editor. It's adds no value in regards to the product.

In regards to contacting other Wazers - you can do so by sending them a PM (Private Message) in the forums.
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Re: Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

Postby harling » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:21 pm

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bgodette wrote:Oh Noes!
It's not like there's a shortage of things to fix, but this is going too far, and it's spreading. Need to get them on-board with the Wiki and forums ASAP.

Has anyone successfully gotten in touch? If they don't answer, maybe the only way to get their attention is to start deleting...

Rearranging the roads to read, "please read http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best_map_editing_practice" (and locking them, of course) might get the point across. :)
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Re: Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

Postby harling » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:27 pm

On the other hand, we also don't want to discourage people from honing their editing skills in a "low-impact" way. Several intersections in my area have undergone "iterations" during my tenure, as I have learned better ways to do things. At some point, though, we do need to encourage people to move beyond the mechanics of the editor and the physical pavement, and start thinking in terms of the impact on the quality of the actual product (effective navigation for Wazers). Given the detail, I'd say this one is ready for "the nudge".
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Re: Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

Postby harling » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:24 pm

jenncard wrote:FWIW, The Family is number 5 all-time editor in Colorado. My attempts to contact them have been unsuccessful

Perhaps "The Family" is mainly interested in using Waze to find the fastest route out of town, and would rather keep a low profile. Just sayin'... ;)
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Re: Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

Postby harling » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:23 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:But really, how does adding all parking lot lanes help with quick getaways?

Level 4 editors can disconnect roads just about anywhere; e.g., to divert Wazers from the escape route and onto the roads most likely to be used by first responders? :lol:
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Re: Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

Postby harling » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:54 pm

jenncard wrote:Except client would not be updated until looooooooooong time after

That's how they know when to "hit". Watch the forums: the one who asks most often about when the next map update will happen is probably the ringleader...
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Re: Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

Postby harling » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:53 pm

jenncard wrote:This renegade behavior may result in a new lvl 4 (probably before me) who will be able to... pave paradise and put up a parking lot.

I wasn't kidding about rearranging the roads to form a message telling them to "read the manual". Or just clear them all out ("select entire road" is your friend!), create a disconnected freeway or two through the middle of the lot named "lehtofamily: please ease up on parking lots and read http://...! and have a lvl4+ lock it. Hopefully that will get their attention. If not, I agree that Waze HQ should get involved; busywork should not be credited with massive amount of points.
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Re: Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

Postby HealthyYoungblood » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:17 pm

Wow! This chain really cracked me up. I thought I was terribly OCD when I got started. That kind of attention to those parking lots, etc. boarders on fondling. The only thing left is to number the parking spots.
This brings up something that I was wondering. I want to contact someone editing in my area to find out if he is putting separating lines on roads that are already split in two. I thought that I saw something somewhere about how to contact other AMs, but I can't find it, now.
Is it possible that the system may somehow be automatically adding separating lines to those roads?
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Re: Uh, wow, that's really detailed work.

Postby HealthyYoungblood » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:06 pm

I've been spending a lot of time selecting several segments of long stretches of already divided roads to clear the checked box for the separating line, which separates the separate lanes. It's a bit agrivating. I just single a short section of road that didn't need to be doubled. I was about to use the separating line for it. So, you're saying it won't matter because it will be cleared anyway? Is there an approximate time for them to all be cleared.
Also, I saw that a few have mentioned their area taking a long time to update and others reporting the updates processing in just a few days. My corrections have been taking about 3 to 4 weeks to process since I began in December 2011. What would be the reasoning?
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