Why divided roads are so bad

[AlanOfTheBerg]

I have noticed that ALOT of roads in California are split when they shouldn't be. This is just a byproduct of the basemap import. I've spent many hours unsplitting them.

[AlanOfTheBerg]

Sometimes parking lot/private roads are a good answer. 15 feet is a good number, and it aligns with the 5m guidelines found in the wiki, which was authored by Waze in this case, not the community. The median must be undrivable, though. Can't be a 15-foot wide turning lane.

[AlanOfTheBerg]

So I decided to start zipping the section of road together and I found that the road is locked.

If you want to post a permalink, someone could unlock them for you, though we'd also likely evaluate whether we should unlock it based on who locked them and when the last edits were.

[AlanOfTheBerg]

Back to the original topic of this thread...

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... TTTTFTTTTT

Someone, please unlock Powell Street from San Pablo heading west to where it currently merges. Is there a normal place to ask for this sort of permission/favor? Or is this okay?

The Update Requests subforum here is usually where requests for updates would go.

Unlocked.

[bgodette]

[harling]

...there is a thoroughfare called Powell Street. In the map it is a divided road... there is no reason for it to be divided , and it causes problems. Where Powell meets Christie there is a user reported problem of a U-turn that is not allowed. But I can't figure out how to fix it. You are allowed to go through both ways on Christie, and all the various left turns are all allowed. So waze was telling the driver to make a left and make an immediate left (essentially a U turn). Based on the way it is set up now the same problem could happen on the other side of the intersection.

Yep: if left turns are allowed from each road onto the other, U-turns will also be possible.

The only way I can see to fix this elegantly is to zip the whole divided road back together. That seems like it would be a lot of work to get even close to right, and if it was done half way it would be a disaster. Any thoughts? It would be nice if you could save a batch of modifications without applying them to the map. So you could do a large bunch of related mods, take your time, get it right, and then apply them all at once to the main map...

IMO, the only reason not to merge the road(s) into two-way roads is if the actual lanes are so far apart that it causes GPS tracking problems. (And even then, you can still prevent U-turns by merging both roads to single two-way segments, just where they intersect. It can look ugly, but at least it works.)

As for editing the map part-way, don't sweat it:

• Changes don't get published to the clients immediately, so you don't have to merge the entire roadway in one fell swoop. As long as you don't leave segments disconnected overnight, chances are nobody will ever see anything but the finished product.
• If you can't finish the entire road in one sitting, you can always connect the one-way roads to the merged two-way road wherever you have to leave off; just make sure the turn restrictions are correct.

[harling]

The only identifier I see is their numerical identifier. I don't see a username.

Cut & paste their number over the one after the u= here: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2347781

When I made that same suggestion, someone replied that the forum user ID and Waze user ID are different.

[jasonh300]

I have no way of knowing the identity of this person, and no way of explaining my reasoning for the split.

Why not? The URs still show the username of the person who sent the request.

[jasonh300]

I have no way of knowing the identity of this person, and no way of explaining my reasoning for the split.

Why not? The URs still show the username of the person who sent the request.

The only identifier I see is their numerical identifier. I don't see a username.

When this happens, save your work and then hit the permalink button and then check again and you should have a username rather than a number.

This works on URs and regular segments also.


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[mapcat]

The only identifier I see is their numerical identifier. I don't see a username.

Cut & paste their number over the one after the u= here:

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2347781