Discussion topic about the official Waze cityname list

[darkneon]

I guess this would make"de klijte" a deelgemeente? You could always call the city hall and ask the "ruimtelijke ordering"-clerck to be 100% sure..

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[deeggo]

Well done! Gefeliciteerd!

[dimii83]

"Harelbeke" is the correct one and it is in the list.
I can not see any segment in that area that is still called "Harelbek", even with the highlight script.
I am just wondering if the incorrect name for some reason got caught in the frozen database or not...

I changed all the streets with "Harelbek" last sunday, that's why you don't find any streets named that. I guess the naming database for cities is slower to change.

[johandebruyn]

Is this official list the reason why all the citynames disappeared in my village?

I live in Hekelgem, a 'deelgemeente' from Affligem. So i named all the streets in my village with Affligem a while ago. But now I see they all disappeared and Affligem is not on your list, but Hekelgem (the deelgemeente) is? The other 2 'deelgemeentes' are Essene and Teralfene, who are, obviously, also on your list. But all 3 'deelgemeentes' have the same postal code, that should already raise questions isn't it?

I bet all belgians know Affligem (probably from the beer ) but certainly not Teralfene.
So isn't there something wrong?

[jvengen]

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[jvengen]

Ik wil best helpen wat namen in de database te zetten. Maar even geen idee hoe. Ik heb wel minder tijd dan een maand geleden, maar elke hulp lijkt me welkom. Doe maar even een PM wat ik kan doen.

[maantje76]

Of course I'd be glad to help.

I'm just concerned about tiny localities (some are not in your list) but that deserves to be in the database: the locality should be displayed on the map, and someone could look after an address with it (my village e.g. is not in your list, while another small nearby is).

Of course, those I know, I'm able to add in the DB. But I don't know every locality and village in Belgium...

Is there anything planned to deal with that ?

I don't know which village is yours, if it's not in the list, it's administrative belongs to another one. In The Netherlands we have lots of this 'villages', all belong to another one. 'Local people also use the 'local' name, but 'officialy it belongs to another. In Belgium this a bit more complicated. Nothing is official of here

As example your village is not on the list. Sure we can add it to the database, but what if someone search your adres in the telephone directory. Then it gets the same cityname as the zipcode belongs to. That person will be entering that cityname for navigation!

What we can do is entering the 'official' cityname according to the list seperated with a '/' symbol, then the local name. But that will give a real cluttered map. So I don't think that will be welcome.

I think if there are some really important villages, we can make a spradsheet with all suggestions. We can discuss about each separatly.

What source do you have in mind for finding the borders of those villages? As far as I know, there aren't any. So we will keep gambling. That's not what we should want to.

When use this list, everybody knows where we stand! This is the basis for a good and complete map. As I said, we have the same in The netherlands, but we stick to this list. The results (one of) the best maps worldwide.

If we have enough active AM's helping, we can alsmost be 'done' with the Belgium map, at the end of the year. Biggest problem is most Belgium AM's aren't visiting the forum and wiki. I'm trying to figure out with Waze support, if and how we can reach (new) AM's. Maybe we can send an email with some information and invite them to visit the Belgium forum and WIKI. Problem is, we only want to reach Belgium AM's.

I also think we need someone who can translate this 'rules' to French language at some point. I'm not in that position

[maantje76]

Sure, I've thought to this kind of situation, but what if I told someone "I live in Lincé" and he doesn't know I'm next to Sprimont, he will never find my home.

Keep in mind, Waze uses an external database for routing. Your cityname will only not get a label on the map. If you can find it right now, it should still be that way, when using the suggested citynames.

[maantje76]

However, I'm still wondering why Rouvreux is on your list, while mine isn't there (Not that I absolutely want mine, don't care actually, I'm moving in the following months ) but intrigued...

Good question, You have to ask the responisble authority for that I think. Hopefully some other AM's can respond and give their vision in a few days too.

[maantje76]

About Lincé and Rouvreux.

When I search both cities in wikipedia, I found that Lincé is just a village in the Municipality Sprimont.
Rouvreux is also a village in Sprimont, but also a 'deelgemeente'(google translate says 'arrondissement' in french' in Sprimont.

I think that's the difference.

Could be.

Moesterry can give some more examples of villages that are not on the list?

I just read the defenition 'deelgemeente' on WIKI. This explains the differnce. Don't know if there is a French WIKI page about this, so you can see it yourself...