Philippine Wazers

[kazmuth]

For road abbr... we should follow this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv? ... TRzYUhGN0E

I think we should, and it looks like we are following the US abbreviations.

[kazmuth]

Welcome SpeeDzel, nakikita ko yung waze icon mo pag sinusundo ko yung wife ko sa technohub sa gabi

this is our official philippine wazers thread... lol..
- dont forget to add levels for the streets depending on how many lanes the street has

bro correction lang, yung level is yung kung gaano kataas above or below ground level. Zero or '0' is ground level tapos yung usual na flyover is 1, yung underpass naman is -1 and so on. Example is Edsa-Ortigas, yung EDSA ground level and Ortigas ground level is 0, tapos north and southbound EDSA flyover is 1, EDSA to Greenhills and EDSA to Ortigas flyover is 2.

[kazmuth]

Mga Sir, ni-lock ko na yung C5 at Ayala roads, sa ngayon tama na yung nasa map pero di pa nagre-reflect sa client maps natin. lagi napapalitan yung direction nung roads at turn restrictions kaya mali lagi yung routing. pag may kailangan kayo i-edit sabihan nyo lang ako para un-lock ko.

Sirs,

napansin ko nga na guide lang talaga ang BING AERIAL maps at hindi siya calibrated accurately to the real routes natin based on the GPS points recorded by WAZE.

painstakingly, i try realligning our roads to the average GPS points and not to the BING AERIAL images of roads. (madugo )

hindi na calibrated tapos outdated pa yung aerials. wala yata tayo choice kasi yun lang ang available na base image. ang bagal pa mag-load ng gps points tsaka sa ibang area walang gps points kaya images lang talaga ang basis.

[kazmuth]

Hello fellow wazers, I have a few suggestions or guide as to how we should edit our roads. I've noticed that a lot of problems and update requests are due to incomplete or incorrect information on our map. A lot of these issues could be avoided if we follow the "Best Map Editing Practice" guide in the wiki (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best ... g_practice). Please comment or add other issues you have encountered.

1. Create road (whether tracing aerial images or gps points)
2. Set road type (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best ... _and_Ramps)
3. Set directionality (two way, one way, dead end) (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best ... 26_Locking)
4. Set the level (ground level = 0, Underpass = -1, Flyover = 1, 2, 3, etc.) (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best ... nderpasses)
5. Connect or create junctions (attach to existing roads) (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best ... nnectivity)
6. Set turn restrictions (http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Cart ... nnectivity:)
7. Name the road, if you don't know the name, set the city, if you don't know the city leave it alone. Somebody else could edit it.
8. When naming streets, omit "City" and "Street". Eg. "Pasig City" to "Pasig" only and "Dela Rosa Street" to "Dela Rosa" only. Except when they are not "Streets" like "Kamias Road", "Aurora Boulevard", "Ayala Avenue", etc.
9. Do not split roads unless they are Expressways, Major, and Minor Highways. Even if they are Major or Minor highways, do not split them if they do not have wide median barriers. Split roads complicate routes and are harder to maintain. There is a guideline in wiki about this here http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Best ... n_Practice

Some formal guidelines - A road should be split if:
-There is at least 5 meters of non-drivable surface between directions of travel. (This means a median of some type like cement, planter boxes, trees, or just grass.
-GPS tracks show a clearly definable gap/blank area between the color-by-azimuth arrows at the 100m zoom level.
-It is an Interstate Highway (USA) or other Limited Access Highway using the "Freeway" road type.

A road should not be split because:
-There is a curb or non-drivable media less than 5m wide between lanes of travel. This means a turn lane, even a wide one, between directions of travel, does not count because it is drivable.
-There are a lot of roads intersecting which can only turn onto the nearest direction of travel.
Google Maps or other mapping source show it as a split road

[kazmuth]

^great guide kazmuth! i hope all those who edit the map would read this first. i sure wish i did before i made some edits.
anyway, there is an update on the map tiles today. i hope routing would be more reliable now.
sirs, in this part of the map: http://bit.ly/xanmG4 on the phone it still shows it as "Kawit" when in fact it is "Bacoor". i already changed all the properties of the streets to bacoor but on the phone it still says kawit. ano po ba ang dapat gawin?

most likely that some, if not most of the streets, still have "Kawit" as the city instead of "Bacoor". That's how it is in my area in Pasig, some of the streets have "San Juan" and "Marikina" instead of "Pasig". Ang ginagawa ko, iniisa-isa ko yung streets tapos pinapalitan yung City.

[kazmuth]

All the roads I create and rename have their complete names. If TTS would be implemented in the world server, I think it would not be that useful. Not all streets have english names and it would not pronounce the street names properly. Here in the Philippines, most of our roads are from spanish sounding names and tagalog words so TTS say them differently from how we know them. As for the long names, I don't know if it's just me but I would prefer complete names instead of initials or abbreviation. This is to avoid confusion especially for those who are unfamiliar with an area. There are not a lot of roads with long names anyway and for me it would be tolerable if it would prevent confusion on directions. These are just my 2 cents

[kazmuth]

most likely that some, if not most of the streets, still have "Kawit" as the city instead of "Bacoor". That's how it is in my area in Pasig, some of the streets have "San Juan" and "Marikina" instead of "Pasig". Ang ginagawa ko, iniisa-isa ko yung streets tapos pinapalitan yung City.

i edited all the properties and made it bacoor even before this last update. pero kawit pa din. when i checked sa WME and clicked the city overlay, ayun nga lumalabas na part ng kawit yung area namin. i dont know how to adjust the city limits though.

Not sure how the city layer is edited, maybe on the old cartouche editor.

I just want to share this with all the waze editors here in the Philippines Let's keep it up guys!

[kazmuth]

Waze selects routes based on the road type, selecting freeways over major highways, major highways over minor highways, and so on, unless you have 'avoid highways' enabled. This was the reason why waze always suggests the heavy traffic ridden 'Kalayaan Avenue' in Makati over '32nd St.' because 'Kalayaan Avenue' was tagged as a minor highway and '32nd St.' was only a street. I've made both of them as primary streets to have them have the same speed penalty and routing would then be based on traffic reports on both roads.

Another basis for waze routing is the number of junctions on the street. Each junction adds a 5 second penalty on the route computation so waze will prefer a street with lesser junctions.

The problem with waze road types is the limited types, there should be secondary and tertiary roads. I agree that the freeways be limited to the 'expressways' but the major highways I think should be limited to the likes of 'MacArthur', 'Maharlika', 'National', 'Cagayan Valley Road', etc. which traverses across multiple provinces. Minor highways then become roads which are the main provincial roads, primary roads would be the main city or municipal roads.

Maybe we can create a list here so we can be in agreement on the road types for our streets like

Freeways:
NLEX
SCTEX
SLEX
STAR

Major:
MacArthur
Maharlika
National

Minor:

Primary:


And then maybe have a separate list for different provinces.


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[kazmuth]

most likely that some, if not most of the streets, still have "Kawit" as the city instead of "Bacoor". That's how it is in my area in Pasig, some of the streets have "San Juan" and "Marikina" instead of "Pasig". Ang ginagawa ko, iniisa-isa ko yung streets tapos pinapalitan yung City.

i edited all the properties and made it bacoor even before this last update. pero kawit pa din. when i checked sa WME and clicked the city overlay, ayun nga lumalabas na part ng kawit yung area namin. i dont know how to adjust the city limits though.

apparently there was a delay in processing the city layer as discussed in this thread https://world.waze.com/forum/viewtopic. ... hilit=city

so the basis for the city boundary is indeed the city tags on the streets, the update on the city layer just didn't happen at the same time as the road map tiles on the last update

[kazmuth]

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