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Re: Temporary road closure

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:08 pm

That sucks terribly. Did Waze only show one route under the alternate routes?
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Re: Temporary road closure

Postby AndyPoms » Tue May 15, 2012 3:41 pm

coldblaze wrote:I agree that some solution is required. There were several large highways and local roads closed in my area for a bike race through the city. Waze was next to useless at that point, as it kept trying to direct me back to the various closed exits and roads.

I am sure you could aleviate potential Waze issues by allowing someone to designate a road is closed and having several people, or a location admin approve the report. Say, once 10 people agree, or a local area admin approve it, then it will be in effect for a particular time.

Having the ability to set roads as accessible during parts of the day are also a good idea. For example, certain HOV lanes are only accessible in a specific direction at particular times of day, and are permanent. These types of settings could easily have some sort of Waze admin approval and will fix the overal issue.


Check out THIS thread about what Waze was able to do about temporary closures around the Boston Marathon... There is some official Waze comment in it...
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Re: Temporary road closure

Postby bgodette » Wed May 30, 2012 9:24 pm

bigbear3764 wrote:I set turn restriction but every once in awhile I get a system generated UR for travel on restricted road. I think the workers are using waze as they haul debris away to dump.

I've noticed that occasionally, for whatever reason, the MP analysis is run with old (9+ months) GPS traces, this might be what you're seeing there.
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Temporary road closure

Postby bigbear3764 » Wed May 30, 2012 1:47 pm

If you close or restrict the road till waze sees travel on it won't work if truck drivers are using waze and hauling using the closed exit. I have a ramp in Chicago that is closed all summer. I set turn restriction but every once in awhile I get a system generated UR for travel on restricted road. I think the workers are using waze as they haul debris away to dump.


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Temporary road closure

Postby bigbear3764 » Wed May 30, 2012 5:00 pm

CBenson wrote:You could make it a percentage of the average tracks over a period of time to trigger the reopening.

I get system generated map problems all the time for closed roads. The problem is that waze will use old GPS data to create new map problems. I am entirely convinced that this is a waze problem, not an issue with construction workers keeping waze on in construction zones.


Ah, that makes more sense. I couldn't figure why I kept getting those error reports from waze.


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Re: Temporary road closure

Postby CBenson » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:06 pm

Idealy there should be some way for the waze routing algorthm to take into account reported closures so that routes will no be generated through them. Currently, I suspect that waze sometimes intreprets a closed road as not backed up (as many of the surrounding routes are when there is an incident that closes a road) and thus can actually prefer to route on the closed road. This can be a significant problem.

I'm not really in favor of adding a whole bunch of reporting options. But absent a method for reporting a temporary road closure that the routing algorithm would take into account, I would like to see a entire new category of "Road Closed" with its own icon for display on the map. I see tons of police reports, accident reports and hazard reports where the incident doesn't actually slow the traffic significantly. Even when the reported incident does slow the traffic, I trust waze to reroute me. The police reports, accident reports and hazard reports that I really want to stand out are those that are reporting road closures.
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Re: Temporary road closure

Postby CBenson » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:41 am

gettingthere wrote:It is unlikely that Waze will allow road closures to be activated via the application. Too much room for people screwing around. You think that ping and chit chat is annoying? Hate to remove hundreds or thousands of speed, red light, and dummy cameras that were misreported in the application (many from the exact location of a home where Wazers were obviously playing around)?

Imagine being routed 60 minutes out of the Waze because someone thought it was cute to close a road. No thanks.

Seems pretty easy for waze to verify if a road is closed or not. If there is traffic on the road disregard the report of the closure. Of all the ways to mess up waze, this has got to be one of the easiest ones for waze to deal with.
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Re: Temporary road closure

Postby CBenson » Wed May 30, 2012 1:56 pm

You could make it a percentage of the average tracks over a period of time to trigger the reopening.

I get system generated map problems all the time for closed roads. The problem is that waze will use old GPS data to create new map problems. I am entirely convinced that this is a waze problem, not an issue with construction workers keeping waze on in construction zones.
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Re: Temporary road closure

Postby CBenson » Wed May 30, 2012 4:29 pm

gettingthere wrote:Yes, even after multiple promises from Waze about the GPS points being more up to date in WME (USA/Canada) they continue to appear to be out of date. In addition the map problems also appear to reference out of date GPS track data.

In addition, these map problems even when marked "not identified" seem to attract the attention of ign and level(6) editors, resulting in edits to recently realigned roads in new constructions zones made by those not familiar with the area based on old gps data and outdated aerials.
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Re: Temporary road closure

Postby coldblaze » Tue May 15, 2012 3:20 pm

I agree that some solution is required. There were several large highways and local roads closed in my area for a bike race through the city. Waze was next to useless at that point, as it kept trying to direct me back to the various closed exits and roads.

I am sure you could aleviate potential Waze issues by allowing someone to designate a road is closed and having several people, or a location admin approve the report. Say, once 10 people agree, or a local area admin approve it, then it will be in effect for a particular time.

Having the ability to set roads as accessible during parts of the day are also a good idea. For example, certain HOV lanes are only accessible in a specific direction at particular times of day, and are permanent. These types of settings could easily have some sort of Waze admin approval and will fix the overal issue.
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