The Major/Minor Hwy confusion & Wiki

[rleejr79]

Because there is zero effect between major and minor on routing, I see it as a really minor thing and use it to visually separate, quickly (with color, sorry color-blind folks) state routes from US routes from interstates. I see little reason, currently, for spending a lot of brain time on the merits of the various opinions any longer. We've spent so much time and never come to a satisfactory conclusion.
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Thanks for this, I will follow suit. I found out today the same zero effect on routing occurs with Street and Primary Street. I am going to adapt the US Hwy as a major highway also.

[AlanOfTheBerg]

Still being rather new this I am in your shoes and still find this subject confusing. I have been reading others opinions here on the forum, and like HavanaDay's guide. Even then I think there are cases when a US Hwy should be demoted to minor or State Hwy demoted to primary.

I would not demote a state DOT designated route to a non-highway road type. That is, as always, just my opinion. I am in favor of promotion, such as a state route which is a freeway, but in general, not too hot on demotions.

[Karrows]

Because there is zero effect between major and minor on routing, I see it as a really minor thing and use it to visually separate, quickly (with color, sorry color-blind folks) state routes from US routes from interstates. I see little reason, currently, for spending a lot of brain time on the merits of the various opinions any longer. We've spent so much time and never come to a satisfactory conclusion.

Every new editor is going to have the same questions, and run into the same problems. Then they are going to come to the forums and start the same threads. Ignoring it will not make it go away, instead it means that it will forever be a drain on our brain time.

There is too much time spent discussing this, and too little time spent on fixing this. I have my fix for the wiki about 75% complete. I have a bit more work, then I'll start the battle to fix it.

[jasonh300]

Everything we know or thought we know about setting street type just went out the window.

Please see this thread, which has a post by Homer(6) who seems to be the developer who handles the coding for street types.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17950

[AlanOfTheBerg]

Everything we know or thought we know about setting street type just went out the window.

Please see this thread, which has a post by Homer(6) who seems to be the developer who handles the coding for street types.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17950

I'm being as ass about this, but I don't believe a lot of what Homer has written. I just don't see how it makes any sense, and certainly is counter to what we've been told repeatedly by others.

[CBenson]

Sure, but Homer was changing edits by a good editor based on what he said. If waze can't get their own staff to march to same drummer with regard to street type classification, I think it is safe to say that a wiki entry that completely clarifies the issue is currently unattainable.

[jasonh300]

I'm being as ass about this, but I don't believe a lot of what Homer has written. I just don't see how it makes any sense, and certainly is counter to what we've been told repeatedly by others.

I understand what you're saying, but whether you believe it or not, it brings our current practices into question. We can't keep writing or suggesting guidelines when there's uncertainty about what's actually going to work. There are problems now that we can't quite put our finger on what's causing them. This could actually answer a lot of questions. We just need a clear explanation of how this works.

If we could ever get a working test rig going, we'd be able to get some more info on our own, but I don't think that's happened yet.

[AlanOfTheBerg]

If we could ever get a working test rig going, we'd be able to get some more info on our own, but I don't think that's happened yet.

The test rig is, generally, working and it shows, according to the current testing, a preference as we would expect of Fwy>Maj>Min>Ramp>Prim>St>Svc>Dirt>Pvt.

[jasonh300]

If we could ever get a working test rig going, we'd be able to get some more info on our own, but I don't think that's happened yet.

The test rig is, generally, working and it shows, according to the current testing, a preference as we would expect of Fwy>Maj>Min>Ramp>Prim>St>Svc>Dirt>Pvt.

So it's actually differentiating between the types of highways and between Primary and Street without speed data?

[AlanOfTheBerg]

So it's actually differentiating between the types of highways and between Primary and Street without speed data?

That's what is being suggested. You can ping bgodette about in that thread.