argus-cronos wrote:Keine Kilometer/Richtungsangaben und lange Namen, A1 reicht völlig aus für eine Autobahn. Alle unnötigen Kreuzungen auf der Autobahn sind auch zu entfernen.
..why does all the world do it wrong - and yet get perfect maps?
"Large parts of the netherlands are like a black hole. The routing results in the netherlands are therefore poor and slow. The wazers in the netherlands are not able to make tunnels navigable, as we in Austria are."
assuming that Austria would not be navigable and Austrian people cannot use Waze. Exactly the contrary is true: you can navigate through Austria from east to west and in all directions from each border to the opposite border. This is the result of the very good and cooperative work of the well coordinated Austrian power-wazers. If you click http://is.gd/Zl2Bq7, you see the routing-result from Vienna to Bregenz, which is completely OK and some minutes shorter than the result in Google Maps. This indicates, that there is no effect of junction penalties. I personally and many diligent Austrian collegues like Waze as the Dutch like it and contributed many many hours of work to get this result. I think the Waze routing-result is better than the result of Google Maps, because of the real speed information of all road-pieces (with the exception of the tunnels, which cannot have dynamically changing speeds as in google maps)."Large parts of Austria are like a black hole, navigationwise. ....that navigation must get possible, so that people can use Waze"
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TSWA wrote:Robin1979 (4) (aus Holland) hat sich offenbar entschieden, unsere Diskussion nicht weiter ab zu warten und arbeitet sich gerade fröhlich die A1 entlang von Linz nach Wien durch, die jetzt in beiden Richtungen "A1 - E60" heißt und Citynamen gibt es auch keinen mehr.
Ich hab ne Weile überlegt, ob ich sauer werden soll, kam aber zum Schluss, dass sich das nicht wirklich auszahlt.
Ich hab ne Weile daran gedacht, ob ich Robin1979 anschreiben soll.
Dann habe ich eine Weile darüber nach gedacht, wie viele Stunden (Freizeit) ich schon für Waze (in welcher Form auch immer) aufgewendet habe und habe noch über einiges andere nach gedacht...
ZW4020 wrote: "there is no penalty at all when travelling on freeways, motorways and highways".
WIKI wrote:The routing problem can be fixed in a variety of ways. One could:
Not apply the penalty at all when travelling on freeways, motorways and highways.
ZW4020 wrote:If you click http://is.gd/Zl2Bq7, you see the routing-result from Vienna to Bregenz, which is completely OK and some minutes shorter than the result in Google Maps.
"there is no penalty at all when travelling on freeways, motorways and highways"
ZW4020 wrote:Dear robin1979!
Now I tested west to east as many times before with Live Map:
Bregenz to Salzburg is OK: http://is.gd/SqJBxU and Kufstein to Vienna also is OK: http://is.gd/c3j4PG .
Bregenz to Vienna cannot find a route, but this is a known waze problem of very long distances: A to B and B to C is OK, but A to C is not OK. It is no editing mistake.
ZW4020 wrote:But similar to you I also had the experience of routing problems in the last weeks without finding a reason in the edited streets and junctions. I believed, there must be a problem, how the waze device sends the speed-information to the waze server. The route on the live map is OK, but sometimes not on the devices on the road. The routes highly depend on the speed-information of the road-pieces. And the speed-information you normally do not change with editing, except using the tricks if editing tunnels.
Waze is not perfect, but the edited streets seem to be OK.
ZW4020 wrote:It seems , that I did not interprete this correctly, in this point I agree with you:"there is no penalty at all when travelling on freeways, motorways and highways"
But the routing time about very long distances is not too long. We try not to set additional junctions, only at the border of cities or at ramps. My opinion is, that it is necessary to fill out the city-names to get quickly enough information out of the event-list with no additional click, where exactly a traffic event is. If you assign a street name without the running km and direction you do not know, where exactly the traffic-event is on a very long city-freeway (in Linz 2x 29km). Routing and information about event-messages are two different qualities of waze. The 2nd quality you can only get, if the street-names inform about the km and direction. In my opinion in city-areas I will not miss this important feature of waze, that other navigation systems cannot achieve.
robin1979: Funny thing is, this happens only in the part of Austria were the names have been butchered. Waze is perfectly capable of finding long routes, Here's a route http://is.gd/m3RK8Q (1069km) I did last week without any problems - it even routes correctly through a decently mapped part of Austria:
petervdveen on 03 Oct 2011, 08:36, revealed the reason of the problems:
Krankyd told me this morning they've had some server issues this weekend, but everything should be back to normal.
In general, there is a 650 mile/ 1047km restriction on navigation routes. Some locations may still be restricted to 200 mile/322 km routes. The client will usually display that it cannot do routes over 1000 miles, but the real limit is around 650. Status: Open.
"this happens only in the part of Austria were the names have been butchered."
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