CLOSED: New points system (comments welcome)

[ahdlm]

from what I can tell, this new system will take my points down from 120,000 to 1,900.
seems severe, but if everyone is being changed by the same system then the raw number doesn't matter.

at the same time, i'll be going from 5 stars down to 1. ouch. I have no idea what that would do to my area manager status, although, with the 5 or 10 mile radius from driven roads one could easily aquire for themselves a similar area of influence on a single weekend outing. the single mile radius that i'd be left with would make things a bit more difficult.

It would be interesting as a feature to be able to see a shaded overlay of the map representing the area of influence that one has aquired with this method so that they could turn it on with the area managers layer and see where they can edit.

It will be interesting to see how this all works out.

[choekstr]

While I really like my 4 star ranking and edging closer to 5 stars, I will welcome the new point system and hopefully a re-adjustment of everyone's rank. You see, I have only had Waze app for a little over a week now and I am already close to the highest ranking I can get? I have never made a map edit, never mapped a new road, and 2 police reports and a hazard later I am classified as an expert?

I work from home so I don't daily commute and while I did go out and drive the very first night I got the app to munch roads, I have only driven in my car 2 other times and yet I have 74k road munching points resulting in a 4 star ranking.

I am guessing this might be a case of too many chiefs and not enough Indians until the new point system goes into effect.

[cobra]

I wish I could name the new road through the client while I'm staring at the street sign... my memory is hit & miss.

I often enter map problem reports at the location I record new roads with the road name. That way when you go to edit the names will be right there in the database and you can close the trouble reports as you finish off the new roads in the editor.

[cyanide99]

I agree that map edits should be given more points than driving. It takes a lot of free time to make edits. You are generally going somewhere when you are collecting driving points. That's time you would have spent driving anyway.

[Dainn]

I'm very new so these comments are very general.

Expert rank should be earned. While stars are nice, perhaps you can have 5 stars and ranks of stars.

For example, I'll likely be a munching cop-reporting commuter who won't spend a lot of time in cartography, at least at first. If I never change from that style, I still should be able to see progression. That progression is what will keep me exploring.

Now, reading the forums here there are some pretty serious people doing some real heavy lifting. They should be rewarded as well.

My proposal:

Yellow Stars 1-5: Stuff a casual commuter can do with his thumb and a sense of adventure.
Green Stars 1-5: You can turn a star from yellow (or nothing) to green by doing the next most valuable activity (perhaps mapping new roads, confirming alerts, etc.)
Blue Stars 1-5: Highest/most valuable activities, the hard stuff that takes real work, dedication, and reputation. You can turn green stars into blue by doing this stuff, which probably would include real mapping, fixing maps, etc.

Star ranks should be progressively harder in each color, a geometric progression so that making 5 stars is hard to reach. First star should be reachable in a week or so, 5th should take real effort over the long term and constant dedication. A yellow 5-star should be proud and have to work to keep it by munching and reporting.

Benefits: it rewards casual particiaption over the long term, which is vital for the growth of the community and hence the quality of the maps. It also rewards those who put the extra effort in, and makes it easy for the rest of us to see who they are -- someone with 5 blue stars will have earned it by more than jsut being around for a long time. It may also encourage some of us casual types to try our hand and more heavy lifting.

Drawback: More confusing than just 5 stars.

Just my $0.02.

(Edit: another thought, because I can't sleep.)

Perhaps at higher ranks you open up special avatars. Let the people who earn them show them off on the Waze maps!

[Elgirts]

[enormekever]

On the client my points have dropped from 500K to 32K. My Dashboard still displays 500K.

Is this a first sign of the new point system being launched?

[enormekever]

If you say he have done nothing else than been driving aound, then from what I can figure out:
1 km = 1 point, that means he must have driven around 1 000 000 km the last month, or around 670 000 miles

and over 1300 km/h

[Feathers44]

I don't have any particular axe to grind on points or rights - everyone's use will be different and the system will always be a compromise for all concerned. I do have one observation, however.

In my area we have people plonking new roads into the system but, for whatever reason, not completing the associated editing tasks i.e. we get a lot of new 'completed' roads but they aren't joined together.

Now, I'm quite happy to follow along behind them and tidy up the map, create intersections, delete all the unused odds and ends of roads but without a suitable editing range outside my driven area (or area manager rights, I guess) I'm unable to do so. The fact that they will then get the majority of the points for the task also makes it a little thankless in my view. Editing the map takes a different skill-set from driving the roads and it appears that not everyone has those skills in abundance!

Driving round the area just to gain map editing rights isn't really feasible but I'll do it soon just to get rid of the displayed errors, I'd just like to suggest that a little more weighting on the edits might be appropriate in these cases.

[Feathers44]

Actually, after the last 12 hours experience I'm getting pretty hacked off with the whole experience.

First, the server seems to have dumped a pretty major detour I made last night - all for the sake of waze - and second, people continue to dump unusable roads across the map and then leave them there for others to tidy up. Please press the 'Map Problems' button once you've laid a road and connect all the broken bits you've left behind!

I'm pretty much fed up with the whole thing at this point. Maybe I'm just expecting too much of people.