Entrance fees = toll roads?

[gettingthere]

Why not just mark the Parks as private roads instead? That is more accurate and should prevent routing through them unless it's your origin, destination or the only feasible way.

[bgodette]

Why not just mark the Parks as private roads instead? That is more accurate and should prevent routing through them unless it's your origin, destination or the only feasible way.

Because they're not private? Since it was brought up, Yellowstone is another situation where there's US Highways going through it, yet you need to pay a park fee to drive it. It's not technically a Toll Road since the fee is for the park in general, yet as far as someone using those highways to get to some destination on the other side is concerned it is.

[gettingthere]

I was at Yellowstone a few weeks ago. I can't imagine anyone will be cutting through that Park and paying the entrance fee if they are not actually visiting the park. It's way, way out of the way to cut through the park to go anywhere but the park. I would never think of that as a toll road and expect Waze to consider it as a toll road for routing.

[jasonh300]

I think we're being a little overly conservative with the toll roads. While I think that these parks aren't all that important, I don't see what it's going to hurt to flag them. Even if your destination is there, Waze is going to route you there anyway. It would still give the indication that the route involves tolls, and should mark the tolled part in a different color on the map.

(If only we could mark those locations where the Lions Club is standing on the corners shaking cans for spare change....)

[bgodette]

I was at Yellowstone a few weeks ago. I can't imagine anyone will be cutting through that Park and paying the entrance fee if they are not actually visiting the park. It's way, way out of the way to cut through the park to go anywhere but the park. I would never think of that as a toll road and expect Waze to consider it as a toll road for routing.

Really? There's a few.

That's a bit unfair however, as the non-toll option adds 5 hours to the trip, however that +5 hours may be the only option during the winter.

[gettingthere]

Toll Road is a standardized term. We are interpreting this as 'fee road' in this thread. A fee road is not a toll road.

If we are going to mark fee roads we need to petition to Waze to change the wording in the client and map editor.

Next it's going to morph to amusement park entrances. Can we just cut it at toll roads as intended?

[gettingthere]

My bad. I was at Yosemite not Yellowstone.

[bgodette]

Toll Road is a standardized term. We are interpreting this as 'fee road' in this thread. A fee road is not a toll road.

Part of the fee paid to enter a national park goes towards road maintenance. How is this different than say a Congestion Zone charge or a Toll on a bridge designed to encourage mass-transit or influence traffic patterns where the bridge has long since been paid for and the collected tolls far exceed maintenance costs?

[gettingthere]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toll_road

A congestion zone seems to be considered a toll. Park Entrance fee, not so much.

[bgodette]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toll_road

A congestion zone seems to be considered a toll. Park Entrance fee, not so much.

"In addition to toll roads, toll bridges and toll tunnels are also used by public authorities for revenue generation to repay for long-term debt issued to finance the toll facility, or to reinvest in capacity expansion or used to pay for operations and maintenance of the facility, or simply as general tax funds."

Seems to apply. Granted a national park is getting federal funds from other sources as well.