Entrance fees = toll roads?

by **gettingthere** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:52 am

Ok, so maybe there are a couple of exceptions. But this should not be the standard for parks. (of any type)

The entrance to Disney World is not a toll road!

by **gettingthere** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:41 pm

Why not just mark the Parks as private roads instead? That is more accurate and should prevent routing through them unless it's your origin, destination or the only feasible way.

by **gettingthere** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:49 am

I was at Yellowstone a few weeks ago. I can't imagine anyone will be cutting through that Park and paying the entrance fee if they are not actually visiting the park. It's way, way out of the way to cut through the park to go anywhere but the park. I would never think of that as a toll road and expect Waze to consider it as a toll road for routing.

by **gettingthere** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:24 am

Toll Road is a standardized term. We are interpreting this as 'fee road' in this thread. A fee road is not a toll road.

If we are going to mark fee roads we need to petition to Waze to change the wording in the client and map editor.

Next it's going to morph to amusement park entrances. Can we just cut it at toll roads as intended?

by **gettingthere** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:26 am

My bad. I was at Yosemite not Yellowstone.

by **gettingthere** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:33 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toll_road

A congestion zone seems to be considered a toll. Park Entrance fee, not so much.

by **gettingthere** » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:59 am

But the difference is that that tolls are solely for the privilege of driving on the road, bridge, area. Park fees are primarily to visit the park. Entertainment.

by **gettingthere** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:52 pm

So if I drive through a mapped McDonald's drive through and have to buy something to continue through - is that a toll road also?

Another definition:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/toll+road?s=t

by **gettingthere** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:13 am

bgodette wrote:Because that's not the only reasonable route? For the roads being discussed, the alternates are +5 to 10 hours of drive time, and the roads are US Highways, not a FSR or a parking lot.

I have an idea - call the national park and ask them if the fee that you pay to enter the park would be considered a toll.

With the McDonalds comment I am trying to make a point. Toll roads should be limited to toll roads, nothing else.

by **gettingthere** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:07 am

bgodette wrote:And the definitions you've given haven't excluded these roads, they're classified on other maps/pnd as tolls, and they're routes through the parks not just to them.

Well the iOS TomTom Application did not alert me of taking a route with toll roads when I visited Yosemite a few weeks ago...

But you don't need my approval. Do as you wish.