Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

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Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

Postby shirlig » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:54 am

This is the place to discuss the new version announced here.
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Re: Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

Postby porubcan » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:02 am

Is there any explanation of mentioned ranks? Thanks

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Re: Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

Postby fotrik » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:06 am

Pity that after almost two years I won't be able to edit the whole AM area because I have "only" 44 thousands map edits and the higher rank is still so far away. I will NOT spent much longer time to describe problems found in my AM area to somebody with higher editor level at locked segment I could easily fix by myself before. I am still willing to help in the map but will never waste my time due to the new restrictions.
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Re: Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

Postby argus-cronos » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:17 am

porubcan wrote:Is there any explanation of mentioned ranks? Thanks

I'm not drunk, just using tapatalk.


It's in the wiki
http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Your_Rank_and_Points
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Re: Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

Postby Shaigan » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:21 am

A bit more laggy with some display bugs in the segments: the arrows are displayed but not the segments. I'm loving this new extended authorisation system ;)
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Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

Postby jasonh300 » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:27 am

The problem is that what Shirli posted doesn't fit either of the ranking systems.

The only functional ranking system is the one that appears in parentheses next to your name on edited segments. The cones system is a gimmick that doesn't mean anything at all.

If Shirli is referring to the parenthetical type ranking, why is there any editing radius for a level (1)? Level 1 is IGN, which is a team of paid editors with worldwide access.

In the ridiculous cone system, everyone starts out at 1. There is no 0.
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Re: Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

Postby Shaigan » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:40 am

What I find usefull is the extended editing area depending of the level. My editing area is really 4 miles around my routes, instead of 1 mile before.
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Re: Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

Postby porubcan » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:47 am

jasonh300 wrote:The problem is that what Shirli posted doesn't fit either of the ranking systems.

The only functional ranking system is the one that appears in parentheses next to your name on edited segments. The cones system is a gimmick that doesn't mean anything at all.

If Shirli is referring to the parenthetical type ranking, why is there any editing radius for a level (1)? Level 1 is IGN, which is a team of paid editors with worldwide access.

In the ridiculous cone system, everyone starts out at 1. There is no 0.

that's why I was asking for explanation. regular user should have level 0 (or at least segments created by new users have (0) listed after editor's name. I've never seen segment with (1) before (1 might be IGN then)
so regular user with no AM rights will have 1 mile and AM will have 4 miles radius?
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Re: Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

Postby fotrik » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:41 am

The UR here is in my AM area but I cannot fix the error and disallow the turn because the segment is locked at level 3 and I still have level 2.

So, do you think that your decision was clever? The AM rights are now totally useless. This is not good solution of the problem that you gave the AM rights to everybody who asked without checking his experience.

I fixed about a hundred of such errors reported or found by manual check in the map every month and won't be able to do it anymore. I cannot spend time to write hudred posts/month in the forum asking one of about three users with higher editor level in our country who could fix it. Next to it, the three higher level users would be overcrowded by such requests. Please give me the full AM rights back and rather refine your procedure of giving AM rights to new users!
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Re: Map Editor version (August 12, 2012) Official Feedback

Postby AndyPoms » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:43 am

I have a HUGE problem with Area Managers losing rights to override a Country Manager lock. The whole point of being an Area Manager is to be able to edit an area you know very well, while a Country Manger is editing is areas they don't know well at all.

Also, since the change in locking policy, there are still many roads that are locked based on the old policy (lock everything) & not on the new (only lock high-value roads).

We have a big problem with out of state Country Managers locking things that shouldn't be locked. I personally have run into the following Country Manager locked segments:

1) Random side streets.
2) Ramps between two different Interstates & not actually connected to the highway on one end of the ramp.
3) Freeway segments with a disallowed continue turn.
4) Ramps with out names (No Street is checked) when they really have an number and name.
5) Ramps that in real life prohibit crossing the highway to the next exit (i.e. on ramp on left, off ramp on right & vice versa) not mapped properly.
6) Road levels (both roads at level 0 when there is an overpass involved).
7) Roads that don't actually exist, or cars can't drive on.

In areas I only had driving rights to, but needed to fix something that was locked by a Country Manager, I would post in the forum, and wait, and wait, and wait... See
1) http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=199&t=17361 (11 Days, taken care of by a support request)
2) http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=199&t=17670 (5 Months & counting with no response, I've since become an Area Manager there and have solved the problem)
3) http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=199&t=17722 (5 Months & counting with no response, I've since become an Area Manager there and have solved the problem)
4) http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=20789 (Almost 2 Months & counting with no response, another local AM and I have both expanded the areas we manage to cover this major highway interchange (I-95 & I-91) that is undergoing a major reconfiguration and make the necessary changes)

Just because someone has a high number of edits, doesn't make them QUALITY edits or even correct.

A better solution would be to have some sort of edit test for Area Managers, only allow area Managers & up have certain permission (i.e. the "Toll Road" flag, and **crosses fingers** the future "No Trucks" flag).

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