Waze Cheating in Ireland.

[xteejx]

I can guess where those fingers are pointing and I would also have to agree. It has been going on farrrrr too long without providing any real input to the map data other than forcing tile changes which aren't needed, which in turn cause higher server load, longer tile processing times, and generally spoil for everyone across the board.

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[Agamicox]

<...> All I will say now is that a transport/logistics company is the main suspect. <...>

Just curious... What actions do they do to cheat?
I'm using Waze daily in my work and I am a Field Service Engineer. Not abusing Reports (often not even reporting at all, just letting Waze report traffic speed itself). Am I considered to be a bad person?

<... > without providing any real input to the map data other than forcing tile changes which aren't needed <...>

What is that exactly? Just to know if I am not doing this thing by mistake too.

Thanks

[xteejx]

Making the tiniest of changes possible basically without actually *doing* anything, if that makes sense?

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[arthurohara]

<...> All I will say now is that a transport/logistics company is the main suspect. <...>

Just curious... What actions do they do to cheat?
I'm using Waze daily in my work and I am a Field Service Engineer. Not abusing Reports (often not even reporting at all, just letting Waze report traffic speed itself). Am I considered to be a bad person?

<... > without providing any real input to the map data other than forcing tile changes which aren't needed <...>

What is that exactly? Just to know if I am not doing this thing by mistake too.

Thanks

God No Agamicox, you are VERY OBVIOUSLY doing absolutely nothing wrong but everything right and most definitely not a bad person. I respectfully suggest you should have a go at editing too, if not already doing so.

I hasten to add I'm not saying anyone that cheats is a bad person either - no way, we all have some frailties.

In addition to what xteejx states

Making the tiniest of changes possible basically without actually *doing* anything, if that makes sense?

, could I add without actually doing anything to benefit the map and ultimately users.

There is also another element I will touch upon now whereby I suspect the user/s under notice send a second client device away with a truck driver on national and or international logistical deliveries while they sit back at work base in their IT job and carefully keep their personal client device quiet and out of use over the critical period. There is actual evidence of that. Perish the thought they might send one by arrangement via air transport. It would also appear a dedicated editor other than the user edits on their behalf.

I have taken all of this up with Waze separately. I expect they see that to allow cheating of any sort to continue can only prove detrimental to the overall project.

Sincerely,

Arthur.

[xteejx]

Exactly. This benefits no one and actually makes a worse product. As I say, those tiles that aren't changed probably aren't reprocessed until they're updated on WME. So to update them for no reason it causes a rebuild and higher server load, making it crap for everyone else.
These people need suspended or removed and banned for good.
Hard to imagine how some people have so little to do with their sad lives that points on a SatNav mean more than getting a job!

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[arthurohara]

Before publicly naming anyone suspected of cheating, the consequences of which I'm happy to accept, I'm openly asking what the stated position of Waze as an organization is on cheating for points and their attitude and views to obvious cheating that exists.

Some of the points generated weekly are simply not justifiable or achievable by editing and or driving or even arranging both 247.

Does Waze have a policy on cheaters and especially those that are reported to them as suspect? Does Waze condone cheating?

I personally do not wish to be associated with any organisation that condones or allows such activity!

I see far too many high ranking editors passing scant comment and accepting as is unfortunately, which really indicates - don't knock it!

[stevedaly1]

Hi all. First time poster. I use Waze every weekday. Just started to get PMs regarding the subject of cheating. I don't know are the messages aimed at me or just a friendly note to let me know what is happening on the forum. I can do up to 400 miles a week as a domestic appliance repairman and I like to be active in reporting events on the road, such as traffic jams etc. I don't do much editing anymore as I found others had done a much better job than me. Just wondering what the full story is regarding the cheating as I noticed recently several members has disapeared off the Waze maps. By the way , even though I get PMs I can't see any actual message for me. Am I not searching properly? Thanks for reading , look forward to feedback.

[stevedaly1]

Hi. Back again. Just figured out how to read messages. Dooh... Feel free to ignore my last posting