City & Street Naming in China

[MapSir]

Thanks a lot for the help with the city names

I can’t restore the towns you refer to but please add a list of them to the sheet with the names and permalinks, I’ll check what can be done.

Thank

[ktheyes]

@MapSir

Thanks a lot for the help with the city names

I can’t restore the towns you refer to but please add a list of them to the sheet with the names and permalinks, I’ll check what can be done.

Thank

Happy New Year!

I have added a new sheet there to record the lost cities and towns in my edit area.
Hope this would not make confusion to you.

[MapSir]

Thanks a lot, I will see what can be done!

[MapSir]

I checked with the Geo team and it’s unfortunately impossible to rename these towns automatically.
The only way is to mark all relevant segments and rename the city name for them.

[ktheyes]

@MapSir

I checked with the Geo team and it’s unfortunately impossible to rename these towns automatically.
The only way is to mark all relevant segments and rename the city name for them.

Okay, if possible, I will rename those segments after you lock down the name format and the finish map cleanup.

[leocylau]

Well, we still need to confirm how to name city and street. Ok let use this example.

City = 包头市青山区
Street = 钢铁大街

In City field, I have a feeling that most people prefer to use Chinese only.
In Street field, Definitely Chinese only.

[Xuefer]

Why isn’t anyone talking about the “alternative name”

[leocylau]

@Xuefer

Why isn’t anyone talking about the “alternative name”

Well, possible ‘alternative name’ doesn’t show in the app and not really help the search.

[Xuefer]

@leocylau

Well, possible ‘alternative name’ doesn’t show in the app and not really help the search.

I’ve not tested on alternative name searching. If it’s the case, alternative name is completely useless. How come the feature isn’t used anywhere?

In google map, it will display English street name when locale is English (not Chinese), but there’s no “Locale” property for name in Waze even there’re more than alternative names can be added

[MapSir]

Hi Guys,

There is currently no use for alternate names in terms of search.
They only apply as a helping tool for comparing routes and avoiding detours, in the future we might enable them in the search.

Thanks

[leocylau]

@MapSir

Hi Guys,

There is currently no use for alternate names in terms of search.
They only apply as a helping tool for comparing routes and avoiding detours, in the future we might enable them in the search.

Thanks

Thank MapSir. You bet me to reply it :mrgreen: . IIRC, the alternative name on ‘place’ does not help in term of search too.

[davide7O]

Hello everyone, I’m a bit confused.

I started editing Lhasa, but I stopped to avoid having to redo everything anew.

Can anyone have a look at this permalink? https://www.waze.com/editor/?env=row&lon=91.03272&lat=29.64654&layers=165&zoom=5&segments=272638402

Given that likely Tibet will be added by Waze, as you can see from this segment I’ve found already edited: Chengguan (district), Lhasa (city) and China (country). Is that correct? I think so. There might be the same streets in the Xigaze Prefecture, but I’d like to be sure about it.

Additionally, I’m writing the translation in AN to avoid confusion.

[mikesierra83]

Hi,

I am an expatriate arrived 6 month ago in China for minimum of 3 years. I am taking Chinese lessons 3 hr per week since 4 months. Let me bring my 2 cents to this discussion.

@MapSir

[…]for the city names and road names.
Our current goal is to make Waze better for local users, not visitors, so if you think that road naming should be in Chinese only it’s ok.

Well, I wonder if I should be consider as a visitor despite the fact I may stay here for 6 years. For sure I can recognize Road Chinese Name told navigation mode, but definitively I think I’ll never be able to enter Chinese Characters for a search.

@leocylau

In Street field, Definitely Chinese only.

I cannot agree

@ktheyes

there are no official English names for Chinese roads.

This is not correct. In Shenzhen, most of the main streets have English name displayed under the Chinese name.

@MapSir

I believe we’ll improve on that and in the future enable multiple languages.

I think this is the solution. And as an editor not mastering Chinese, I really need rules to continue edition in China.

@shmupi

Never live in China , just visited and I was OK with half English / Half Chinese namesShmupi

I confirm this is acceptable

@leocylau

However, I strongly insist to use Chinese only on Street name. Otherwise, the street name cannot be pronounced correctly in navigation mode.

This is to be solved.

[MapSir]

Hi mikesierra83!

First of all welcome to our China group of editors, glad to have you onboard.

As we currently don’t have the right systems developed to support dual language street names it’s best to stick with the official local language.
If you travel to Russia or Israel (and almost any other country) you will not see English road names.

Thanks

[leocylau]

Hi mikesierra83,
Welcome and thanks for your opinions. I’ll not against to use Chinese/English format on Street name as I believe in Shanghai, Shenzhen or other big cities in China. Most of the street are using Chinese/English format and it seems too aggressive to force all editors to change them back. However, please stick with the guideline for the time being until Waze develop the multi-language system.
Cheers,
Leo

[Editot]

In Hong Kong, “English Chinese” appears to be working. “Chinese English” should work in China. Is anyone experiencing issues?

[leocylau]

@Editot

In Hong Kong, “English Chinese” appears to be working. “Chinese English” should work in China. Is anyone experiencing issues?

Well, basically the argument some Chinese Wazers raised is there is no official English street name. It may be OK in Big cities but not in small cities. Different people have different translations. Different resources have different translation too.

ktheyes has an example:

In Jiujiang, there is a road named “三马路”, which could be translate into English by its meaning as “Third Road” or “Three Horse Road”, or translate by homophonic to “Sanma Road”, or “Sanmalu Road”, Or even “San Ma Lu”.

[Editot]

That’s fair enough. Critical that the Chinese names are correct. As Waze is live the English names can be reviewed , edited, corrected and refined over time and with local knowledge as consistent approaches are developed. In many cases there will be no right answer. Try, fail, adjust…

[leocylau]

@Editot

Critical that the Chinese names are correct.

Agree

@Editot

the English names can be reviewed , edited, corrected and refined over time and with local knowledge as consistent approaches are developed.

Right! So no harm to add English name though.

[leocylau]

Just a thought! If Waze can add a field ‘English Street Name’ below ‘Alternative Street Name’ and make it searchable, it will be ideal.