# Expired turn closure preventing segment modifications
**URL:** https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642
**Category:** WME Production Bugs
**Tags:** wme-fixed
**Created:** [October 19, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642 "2025-10-19T19:01:52Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@jmbox](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/jmbox)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/1 "2025-10-19T19:01:52Z")
**Is this a…** :
Standard bug
**Steps to reproduce this issue** :
I had both segment and (straight) turn closed, as I was planning ahead for coming construction changes. Now I’m unable to move the node or disconnect the segments even though I have deleted the closures. It is acting like there is a turn closure still active.
It also looked like the segment closure was appearing in the turn closure window. Both turn and segment closures show as Ended early. However the turn still has (1) next to turn closures.
Maybe I need to wait 7 days for the expired closures to clear? That is a long time to wait to be able to make necessary modifications.
The segment to the east also has the same issue.
**Environment where the bug occurs…** :
NA
**Permalink** :
[https://waze.com/en-US/editor?env=usa&lat=39.87009&lon=-85.91711&zoomLevel=19&segments=16448163](https://waze.com/en-US/editor?env=usa&lat=39.87009&lon=-85.91711&zoomLevel=19&segments=16448163)
**Browser name and version** :
Multiple browsers
**Are you using scripts? Please detail which ones.** :
Tried without scripts
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### Author:  [@Olesya-Staff](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/Olesya-Staff)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/2 "2025-10-20T11:13:06Z")
Hello @jmbox,
Thank you for flagging this issue. I have raised an internal ticket to look into it. I’ll keep you posted on the progress.
Best regards,
Olesya
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### Author:  [@jmbox](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/jmbox)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/4 "2025-10-27T01:16:38Z")
Well, the turn closure dropped, but it still says there is a closure when I try to edit the node or segments.
This is a new roundabout that I’m unable to draw…
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### Author:  [@Olesya-Staff](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/Olesya-Staff)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2025, 9:55am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/5 "2025-10-27T09:55:46Z")
> [@jmbox](#):
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> Well, the turn closure dropped, but it still says there is a closure when I try to edit the node or segments.
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> This is a new roundabout that I’m unable to draw…
Hello @jmbox,
The issue is still being worked on. I have highlighted the impact internally and will keep you posted.
Best regards.
Olesya
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### Author:  [@jmbox](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/jmbox)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/6 "2025-10-30T13:56:51Z")
We made a local decision to redraw the surrounding roads so we could create the roundabout for navigation.
These 2 segments are still “locked” and can’t be removed. They have been changed to tunneled runways to minimize interference. [https://waze.com/en-US/editor?env=usa&lat=39.87019&lon=-85.91658&zoomLevel=19&segments=16448163,16450228](https://waze.com/en-US/editor?env=usa&lat=39.87019&lon=-85.91658&zoomLevel=19&segments=16448163,16450228)
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### Author:  [@Olesya-Staff](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/Olesya-Staff)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/7 "2025-10-30T16:03:33Z")
Hello @jmbox,
Thank you so much for taking these steps to mitigate the impact. The issue has been prioritized so efforts can be focused on diagnosing the root cause. I will keep you posted.
All the best,
Olesya
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### Author:  [@Olesya-Staff](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/Olesya-Staff)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/8 "2025-11-04T18:31:12Z")
Hi @jmbox,
Just a quick update: the problematic closures have been marked as finished on the backend, so the affected segments and nodes should be editable now. Can you please verify?
Thank you,
Olesya
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### Author:  [@jmbox](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/jmbox)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2025, 4:32am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/9 "2025-12-06T04:32:19Z")
Yes, I don’t see the closures on these segments and looks like they can be deleted. Is it okay for me to do that?
However, it seems the issue is still present when turn closures end or are deleted.
This segment for example: [https://waze.com/en-US/editor?env=usa&lat=39.80545&lon=-86.15766&zoomLevel=20&segments=508722875](https://waze.com/en-US/editor?env=usa&lat=39.80545&lon=-86.15766&zoomLevel=20&segments=508722875)
The segment south of this intersection also had a turn closure, which I deleted but didn’t disappear until after about a week.
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### Author:  [@Olesya-Staff](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/Olesya-Staff)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/10 "2025-12-08T16:56:11Z")
Hi @jmbox,
> [@jmbox](#):
>
> Yes, I don’t see the closures on these segments and looks like they can be deleted. Is it okay for me to do that?
Yes, you can delete thesegments that are no longer needed.
> [@jmbox](#):
>
> However, it seems the issue is still present when turn closures end or are deleted.
> This segment for example: [https://waze.com/en-US/editor?env=usa&lat=39.80545&lon=-86.15766&zoomLevel=20&segments=508722875](https://waze.com/en-US/editor?env=usa&lat=39.80545&lon=-86.15766&zoomLevel=20&segments=508722875&_gl=1*1mg2uth*_ga*MjAxMzgzMTY0OC4xNzUzODgzODQ3*_ga_2848KND9CX*czE3NjUyMTE1OTYkbzMwNyRnMSR0MTc2NTIxMTgwMSRqNjAkbDAkaDA.)
Does this mean that you cannot modify the segment?
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### Author:  [@jmbox](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/jmbox)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/11 "2025-12-14T18:04:01Z")
Thanks. I did some further testing, and the issue is not present any more. The segments are modifiable after closure ends or is deleted.
I believe it would be beneficial to have a different icon or color for an expired turn closure vs an active one.
I may have missed an active closure on that last link…
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### Author:  [@Olesya-Staff](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/Olesya-Staff)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2025, 11:30am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/expired-turn-closure-preventing-segment-modifications/392642/12 "2025-12-15T11:30:01Z")
Hi @jmbox,
Thank you for your response!
We have an existing feature request to remove the icon in case a turn closure is no longer relevant.
It was previously mentioned [here](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/node-closure-bug-is-back/308507/11). Please let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
Best,
Olesya