Fixing GTA Road Classifications

Greater Sudbury (pop: 160k):
http://www.greatersudbury.ca/?LinkServID=AB98FAC5-90BC-20CF-19A99848C83DD34C
MH: Provincial Highway, Primary Arterial
mH: Secondary Arterial, Tertiary Arterial
PS: Collector

Thunder Bay (pop: 108k):
http://www.thunderbay.ca/Assets/CEDC/docs/Thunder+Bay+Traffic+Counts+-+opens+a+new+window.pdf
As written

North Bay (pop: 53k):
http://www.cityofnorthbay.ca/common/pdf/Schedule5.pdf
for now-
mH: Arterial
PS: Collector

We got many hours of drive from the GTA with this list.

Quick update for Durham region
Continuing from: https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=339&t=105201&hilit=Ajax&start=50#p1277049

Adding Ajax: https://www.ajax.ca/en/doingbusinessinajax/resources/Planning_Services/Ajax_Official_Plan_Consolidation_Jan_15_2016.pdf, page 237
Scugog: http://www.scugog.ca/en/township-office/resources/Documents/Planning-Documents/Combined-Schedules---November-2014.pdf, page 6
Brock: https://townshipofbrock.ca/doing-business/planning-development/township-of-brock-official-plan/
Uxbridge: http://town.uxbridge.on.ca/sites/default/files/documents/Uxbridge%20Official%20Plan%20Consolidation%20Jan2014-Complete.pdf, pg 252

And the more updated Durham official plan (2011): https://www.durham.ca/departments/planed/planning/op_documents/officialplan/schedule_c.pdf

Durham is actually wrapping up their new TMP, and the delta in FC start on page 217. I’ve begun updating the ones where the ā€œBasis for reviewā€ has already been completed (i.e., overpass for Hwy 407) https://durhamtmp.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/durham-tmp-draft-report_2017-05-25_compressed.pdf

@nagamasa: Please hold off on any updates in WME until I have had a chance to review these new materials. I am just leaving for vacation, but we can address this when I return on June 26. Thanks for your patience.

Any chance we could get these all into one list instead of spread across 7 pages of the thread? :mrgreen:

I started a list years ago, but I got lazy. There may have been also some Google sheet…

https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/USA/User:Nagamasa

As long as we continue to follow the original legend mapping for the regional plan as follows:
Freeway = Freeway
Type A Arterial = Major Highway
Type B Arterial = Minor Highway
Type C Arterial = Primary Street

For the municipal plans, some of them seem to take it upon themselves to reclassify regional roads at different levels. We will ignore any classification of regional roads in a municipal plan, and instead follow the regional classification. Where we will use the municipal plan is for Primary Street – any road the municipality elevates we will apply as Primary Street.

If there is any discussion about this approach for Durham Region, please post a reply here (or discuss on GHO and post the results here).

Thanks!

I’ve been doing extensive work on the rural roads around my region the past few weeks. Unfortunately the rural areas are largely forgotten either due to no local editors or because we have bigger fish to fry in the city … so of course most of these roads, some heavily traveled by Wazers, haven’t been touched in 3-4 years. I’ve been adding Speed limits, fixing geometry, and fixing road classifications as per the municipality designations.

Here is a list of the areas that have been completed so far.

Elgin County:
Bayham, Central Elgin, Dutton-Dunwich, Malahide, Southwold, West Elgin
For County Roads, use classification given by the county, not the township.
Provincial Highway / Major Arterial: MH
Minor Arterial: mH
Collector: PS
Aylmer
Provincial Arterial: MH
County Arterial: mH
Collector: PS
St. Thomas
Highway / Major County Road / Major Arterial: MH
Minor Arterial: mH
Major / Minor Collector: PS
Lambton County:

Brooke-Alvinston, Dawn-Euphemia, Enniskillen, Oil Springs, Petrolia, Plympton-Wyoming, Lambton Shores, St. Clair, Warwick

Provincial Highway: MH
Arterial Road: mH
Collector Road: PS

Middlesex County:
Adelaide-Metcalfe, Lucan Biddulph, Middlesex Centre, Newbury, North Middlesex, Southwest Middlesex, Strathroy-Caradoc, Thames Centre
For County Roads, use classification given by the county, not the township.
Provincial Highway / Four-Lane Arterial Road: MH
Arterial Road: mH
Collector Road: PS
Oxford County:

Blandford-Blenheim, East Zorra-Tavistock, Ingersoll, Norwich, South-West Oxford, Tillsonburg Woodstock, Zorra
County designates road class for entire county including towns and townships. There are no collector roads designated outside of Ingersoll, Tillsonburg, and Woodstock, so I have left all County Roads as mH.

Provincial Highway: MH
Arterial / County Road: mH
Collector: PS

Update 8/24/2017:
Chatham-Kent is done.

Provincial Highway (Hwy 40): MH
Rural / Urban Arterial: mH
Rural / Urban Collector: PS

The original Burlington Road Classification source may have been deleted, but early this morning, I found this one: https://burlingtonpublishing.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=18075, it is the latest one I can find. The reason I want to bring this one up is because I’m finding most ā€˜Street’ segments in WME that probably needs to be transitioned to PS and some PS to mH, etc. I did put together a sketch in the spots that may need to be upgraded based on the latest source I found:Burlington Urban.png
Burlington Rural.png
Burlington Lakeshore, Burlington Hamilton Eastport.png

I’m not too certain if we should do it or not?

Your link to the source shows 3 images extracted from a larger municipal planning document. You would need to verify that the larger document has been ratified and is current before using it for FC. These are very large documents (the Durham Region FC maps were somewhere around page 350 if I recall correctly). They are usually published on the municipal website as the ā€œmaster planā€.

Also, after referencing the ā€œFC Strategiesā€ tab (which describes which FC hierarchy you are using), please add this area to the ā€œFC Areasā€ tab on the Ontario spreadsheet (possibly with a link to the current planning document). If you need a document invite, PM me your email address and I can invite you.

I found another source that is similar to the doc I sent on Thursday night, not sure if this works? (https://burlington.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=4c0fcb27137e46c0acccbc9595a54127) It’s in Official Plan Schedule J-L.

Actually this part of the 1997 plan seems to be official (although the ā€œupdated in 2019ā€ statement is a little odd – how do you update an approved document without re-reviewing it?), and because it’s a PDF, you can trace it back to the parent document and therefore the approval status. What you sent might in fact be the same (except implemented on ArcGIS), but it would be difficult to prove that it is in fact the same as the final approved version.

Parts of the 2020 plan might be not under appeal and therefore functionally considered approved, I didn’t take the time to look at which parts are under appeal.

Okay yaaah, if the three updated Road Classifications (Downtown, Rural, and Urban) are partially in-effect or not, then it’s not really fully appealed just yet (we shouldn’t probably take the risk). It also says ā€œUntil all broad appeals to the Region’s approval of the Burlington Official Plan, 2020 are resolved, parts of the old Official Plan (Burlington Official Plan 1997, as amended) will stay in effect.ā€

I also compared the doc you sent and the source I linked the other day, it is absolutely the same. And from that, it still shows some segments in WME (specifically Neighbourhood Roads) that I feel it needs to be upgraded to PS or mH. Do you think I should do the changes based on the current Doc that is still in effect (not really 1997, but 2006/2010 pics)?

Just a clarification - for the region’s plan you’re using Major Arterial as MH, Minor Arterial and Multi-Purpose Arterial as mH, and Collector as PS?

Multi-Purpose Arterial seems to be the unique road type in this plan, so you should document how it is being mapped in your Region. I guessed mH, but local knowledge (yours or other editors in your area) and road design specifications might say it should be higher or lower in Waze.

To fill in the rest of the PRM+: the province’s plan would be the final source for all roads marked Provincial Freeway and Provincial Highway (translating to Freeway an MH respectiively). And any official Municipal plans you find can bump additional municipal roads from Street to PS (regardless of the classification names). Any Regional Roads or Provincial Roads shown on the Municipal Plan are not relevant for the FC process as the Region and Province plan are to be followed.

Stated another way, the 5 Waze road types are sourced from the following plans:
Freeway: province
MH: province + region
mh: region
PS: region + municipality
Street: municipality

The plus in PRM+ means that the Region can add additional MH to what the Province specified, and the Municipality can add additional PS to what the Region specified. The lower level plan can never downgrade any road type from a higher level plan.