# Level 5 Unlock Request/Question - Farmington Hills, MI

**URL:** https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395
**Category:** US Unlock And Update Requests
**Created:** [May 13, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395 "2013-05-13T21:33:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![diegoz281](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/FF5252/32.png) [@diegoz281](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/diegoz281)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/1 "2013-05-13T21:33:07Z")

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[https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-83.42047&lat=42.49084&zoom=5&layers=BFTFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTFTT&segments=61449530,71312100,23808341,71312099](https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-83.42047&lat=42.49084&zoom=5&layers=BFTFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTFTT&segments=61449530,71312100,23808341,71312099)

When going westbound on I-696, waze does not give you the direction to stay to the left on 696 at the split where “Exit 1: I-96 E / I-275 S / M-5 / Grand River Ave / Toledo” is. It instead just tells you the next direction, confusing the driver.

Is there any way to fix this?

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### Author: ![txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/963EFF/32.png) [@txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/txemt)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/2 "2013-05-13T23:08:12Z")

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No. Waze does not give directions to “stay straight.”

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### Author: ![diegoz281](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/FF5252/32.png) [@diegoz281](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/diegoz281)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/3 "2013-05-14T01:54:56Z")

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> [@txemt](#):
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> No. Waze does not give directions to “stay straight.”

What about keep left? Or does it just treat this as it being a regular exit?

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### Author: ![txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/963EFF/32.png) [@txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/txemt)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/4 "2013-05-14T02:05:49Z")

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Because there is a ramp or exit 1, waze will treat is as you are going straight.

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### Author: ![diegoz281](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/FF5252/32.png) [@diegoz281](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/diegoz281)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/5 "2013-05-14T02:10:53Z")

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> [@txemt](#):
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> Because there is a ramp or exit 1, waze will treat is as you are going straight.

gah, of course! I feel dumb. Thanks!

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### Author: ![sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/user_avatar/www.waze.com/sketch/32/336_2.png) [@sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/sketch)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 2:30am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/6 "2013-05-14T02:30:08Z")

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L5s: I would modify that junction to be the same type on both sides, either ramp or freeway, following the [rules for wayfinder segments](http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page?title=Junction_Style_Guide#Wayfinder_Segments). It’s pretty clear to me that user anti-S-crap meant to produce that result when he created and named [this segment](https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-83.4197&lat=42.49071&zoom=7&layers=BFTFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTFT&segments=71312100). That way you get an instruction for both sides, which I feel is optimal in this case, because it’s two lanes either way and because it’s the final split at the end of an interstate.

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### Author: ![diegoz281](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/FF5252/32.png) [@diegoz281](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/diegoz281)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/7 "2013-05-14T02:52:24Z")

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> [@sketch](#):
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> L5s: I would modify that junction to be the same type on both sides, either ramp or freeway, following the [rules for wayfinder segments](http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page?title=Junction_Style_Guide#Wayfinder_Segments). It’s pretty clear to me that user anti-S-crap meant to produce that result when he created and named [this segment](https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-83.4197&lat=42.49071&zoom=7&layers=BFTFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTFT&segments=71312100). That way you get an instruction for both sides, which I feel is optimal in this case, because it’s two lanes either way and because it’s the final split at the end of an interstate.

This is exactly what I meant. that exit is confusing because two lanes stay on the main highway and two split. Could a level 5 editor please fix this?

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### Author: ![txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/963EFF/32.png) [@txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/txemt)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/8 "2013-05-14T03:43:22Z")

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I’m not convinced. Because the exit then splits off, I don’t see why someone needs to make the ramp a freeway. I’m also not convinced on why the segment anti-S-crap created needs to be a ramp.If that’s the case, then why don’t we do that at every exit on the interstates throughout the country.

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### Author: ![sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/user_avatar/www.waze.com/sketch/32/336_2.png) [@sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/sketch)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/9 "2013-05-14T04:10:14Z")

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> [@txemt](#):
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> I’m not convinced. Because the exit then splits off, I don’t see why someone needs to make the ramp a freeway. I’m also not convinced on why the segment anti-S-crap created needs to be a ramp.If that’s the case, then why don’t we do that at every exit on the interstates throughout the country.

It’s not a run-of-the-mill exit, it’s the end of an interstate. The split is a decision point. 696 ends and you have to decide whether to go east or west on 96, the parent interstate.

It’s standard practice to name one side of such a split “exit”, and not the other. Regardless, neither side has more weight than the other.

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### Author: ![txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/963EFF/32.png) [@txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/txemt)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/10 "2013-05-14T04:37:17Z")

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With the exit sign and the 696 technically ending at that exit, doesn’t that negate your argument?

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### Author: ![sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/user_avatar/www.waze.com/sketch/32/336_2.png) [@sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/sketch)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 4:47am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/11 "2013-05-14T04:47:52Z")

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> [@txemt](#):
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> With the exit sign and the 696 technically ending at that exit, doesn’t that negate your argument?

If 696 ends at the exit, then the left segment should be a ramp all the way to the end.

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### Author: ![txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/963EFF/32.png) [@txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/txemt)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 4:51am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/12 "2013-05-14T04:51:49Z")

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Oops, I missed a word. That was supposed to real “technically NOT ending at that exit”

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### Author: ![sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/user_avatar/www.waze.com/sketch/32/336_2.png) [@sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/sketch)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 4:58am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/13 "2013-05-14T04:58:08Z")

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> [@txemt](#):
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> Oops, I missed a word. That was supposed to real “technically NOT ending at that exit”

Then I’d use a ramp stub on the left for the instruction and keep the freeway for the last few hundred yards for the sake of traffic reports, etc.

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### Author: ![txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/963EFF/32.png) [@txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/txemt)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 5:35am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/14 "2013-05-14T05:35:38Z")

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I’d leave it as is.

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### Author: ![diegoz281](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/FF5252/32.png) [@diegoz281](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/diegoz281)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/15 "2013-05-14T18:54:55Z")

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Having the split be with two highway segments and then have it switch back to an exit segment for the right side would fix this issue, wouldn’t it?

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### Author: ![txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/963EFF/32.png) [@txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/txemt)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/16 "2013-05-14T23:49:16Z")

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> [@diegoz281](#):
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> Having the split be with two highway segments and then have it switch back to an exit segment for the right side would fix this issue, wouldn’t it?

But the exit is an exit. It follows the rules and guidelines of an exit.

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### Author: ![sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/user_avatar/www.waze.com/sketch/32/336_2.png) [@sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/sketch)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2013, 11:54pm UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/17 "2013-05-14T23:54:15Z")

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> [@txemt](#):
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> But the exit is an exit. It follows the rules and guidelines of an exit.

It’s really not that simple. It’s not “just an exit” if the exit has the same number of lanes as the continuation. That’s a textbook (or, wiki) example of when it is proper to use a wayfinder segment.

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### Author: ![txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/963EFF/32.png) [@txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/txemt)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/18 "2013-05-15T00:23:51Z")

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[https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lat=32.7234&lon=-97.57762&layers=BFTFFTTTTFTTFTTTTTFTTTFTT&segments=71349405](https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lat=32.7234&lon=-97.57762&layers=BFTFFTTTTFTTFTTTTTFTTTFTT&segments=71349405)

You mean like this?

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### Author: ![sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/user_avatar/www.waze.com/sketch/32/336_2.png) [@sketch](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/sketch)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/19 "2013-05-15T00:26:30Z")

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> [@txemt](#):
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> [https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lat=32.7234&lon=-97.57762&layers=BFTFFTTTTFTTFTTTTTFTTTFTT&segments=71349405](https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lat=32.7234&lon=-97.57762&layers=BFTFFTTTTFTTFTTTTTFTTTFTT&segments=71349405)
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> You mean like this?

Yes. I would absolutely use a wayfinder there. Especially because the continuation is on the right.

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### Author: ![txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/963EFF/32.png) [@txemt](https://www.waze.com/discuss/u/txemt)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://www.waze.com/discuss/t/level-5-unlock-request-question-farmington-hills-mi/89395/20 "2013-05-15T00:34:14Z")

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The exit ramp for I-30 is sufficient enough.

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