Level5→L3 Unlock: Ontario - Toronto (Hwy 27)

Nagamasa · November 18, 2015, 10:52pm

My Level: 3
Reason for request: on both directions marked on the editor (red road), there is a sign saying Hwy 427 ends/begins, and the 80/100km sign begins right after.

I propose:

extending Hwy 427 Collector N/S name
Freeway configuration
to the end of the concrete barrier, right by the two red road markers.

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Connected ramps: https://www.waze.com/editor/?env=usa&lon=-79.57636&lat=43.67474&layers=2981&zoom=5&segments=60327953,60432326,59950087

hmarian · November 27, 2015, 3:57am

I don’t understand what is the issue here.
We have no routing problems, no TTS issues, etc.

I believe the current settings match the information available here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Highway_27

Please mark as resolved.

Nagamasa · November 27, 2015, 4:46am

I disagree–the issue is:

We aren’t following what is signed (Hwy 427, up until the Hwy 427 ENDS sign), by almost 3km.
as drawn, it doesn’t follow our own guidelines

http://www.thekingshighway.ca/Highway27.htm

Highway 27 was downloaded between Toronto and Penetanguishene in 1998, except for a tiny 1.5 km section of the highway lying within the Highway 401 & Highway 427 interchange in Toronto. The tiny section of Highway 27 was retained in the provincial highway system because it was contained within the MTO-owned property surrounding the interchange. However, this section of Highway 27 merely served as a set of ramps between Highway 427 and the downloaded sections of Highway 27 lying to the north of the interchange. For a number of years, the Ministry of Transportation signed this small ramp segment as Highway 27, but this practice was discontinued during 2007. The existing Highway 27 route markers along this ramp section were replaced with new route markers, indicating that it is now considered to be a part of Highway 427. While the Highway 27 designation is still indicated on some older overhead and ground-mounted freeway signs, it now appears that the MTO has chosen to replace the Highway 27 designation with the Highway 427 designation.

This Hwy 427 ENDS sign at 43.6785212,-79.5782037 was also put up in the last year (according to ‘alternate’ visual sources), sometime after June 2014 (i.e., new). Hence, it is not a relic of the former routing of Hwy 427, and in fact intentional from MTO.

“No routing problems”–how do you know if you’re never explicitly told about this route?

This section also fully complies with the our definition of a freeway:
https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Canada#Freeways

hmarian · November 27, 2015, 5:13am

OK. I accept the change.
Let me know if this looks all good to you.

Nagamasa · November 27, 2015, 5:16am

Looks fine to me, as long as you’re OK with a freeway not being divided.

hmarian · November 27, 2015, 5:19am

Good point. I will divide it.
You can mark as resolved.