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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby bz2012 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:41 pm

Jay91150 wrote:Someone got to it before I could do a screenshot, but there was an auto-UR in the concrete canyons of Calgary's downtown this morning that wanted a new road created because the averaged GPS route was dramatically curved over top of several tall buildings instead of using the square grid street network. The average route looked like the path Batman or Spiderman might take, from rooftop to rooftop :)


Thank goodness that some noobee didn't 'connect the points with a road'. :)
[I do wish that the message would be changed! I get tired of finding a road overlaying other roads because someone did what they thought they were being told to do.]
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby Jay91150 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:46 pm

Someone got to it before I could do a screenshot, but there was an auto-UR in the concrete canyons of Calgary's downtown this morning that wanted a new road created because the averaged GPS route was dramatically curved over top of several tall buildings instead of using the square grid street network. The average route looked like the path Batman or Spiderman might take, from rooftop to rooftop :)
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby banished » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:40 pm

Points is points.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby davielde » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:37 pm

russblau wrote:I had a hard time believing what I was seeing in this UR:

Reporter wrote:Problem: Good afternoon, we are starting a new shiur with Rabbi [REDACTED] tuesday nights ON TANACH, DAVID HAMELECH. "VERY INTERESTING" mincha and arvit at Rabbi [REDACTED] 630 pm followed by shiur till 8pm. please join us in [REDACTED]. thank you
Reported on: yesterday


Needless to say, closed as "Not Identified".

I don't know what the Jewish equivalent of evangelism is called, but that's quite a determined reporter. So, "general error", "missing road"...?
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby russblau » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:29 pm

I had a hard time believing what I was seeing in this UR:

Reporter wrote:Problem: Good afternoon, we are starting a new shiur with Rabbi [REDACTED] tuesday nights ON TANACH, DAVID HAMELECH. "VERY INTERESTING" mincha and arvit at Rabbi [REDACTED] 630 pm followed by shiur till 8pm. please join us in [REDACTED]. thank you
Reported on: yesterday


Needless to say, closed as "Not Identified".
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby bgodette » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:10 pm

davielde wrote:Good catch on that one little arrow going south! I saw the one "turn right" icon but didn't pick up that it could be two overlaid. Premature closure as it could have been trying to route him back to the neighboring interstate, into the neighboring mall entrance from Novi Rd instead of 12 Mile's entrance, etc... Unfortunately no response from the driver, so it went Not Identified.
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So, this is not a "Michigan Right", but a "Michigan T-turn"...
Likely trying to get them back to the freeway as there's two better options for getting into the shopping center to the west.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby davielde » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:53 pm

bgodette wrote:From the screen shot the route is trying to get him to go south on the road was going north on, so an elaborate U-Turn not an elaborate right turn.

Good catch on that one little arrow going south! I saw the one "turn right" icon but didn't pick up that it could be two overlaid. Premature closure as it could have been trying to route him back to the neighboring interstate, into the neighboring mall entrance from Novi Rd instead of 12 Mile's entrance, etc... Unfortunately no response from the driver, so it went Not Identified.
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So, this is not a "Michigan Right", but a "Michigan T-turn"...
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby davielde » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:48 pm

CBenson wrote:Is the UR still open? I'd love to inquire about this route with waze staff as my efforts to find out what happened here have stalled.

No, unfortunately all of the turn restrictions looked good, and no close segments on 12 Mile were anomalies like "toll road", so I marked the UR as Not Identified. Here's a permalink to that intersection though.

One note on those two u-turns though. sketch had developed and tweaked an experimental convention for "Michigan Lefts" that we are working with in Michigan only, with our RC's knowledge. Here is some documentation in our wiki on "median u-turn intersections". I did change those two U's to match that. All of this is a long-winded explanation for why two at-grade ramps now exist there in violation of the accepted standards... Those had previously been marked as no name streets instead of named ramps, so Waze's routing may have just seen everything on that drive as "12 Mile".
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby bgodette » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:44 pm

davielde wrote:If anyone familiar with a "Michigan Left" thinks it's crazy, I think that Waze invented a "Michigan Right". Fortunately the driver had common sense and just turned right...

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From the screen shot the route is trying to get him to go south on the road was going north on, so an elaborate U-Turn not an elaborate right turn.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby CBenson » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:27 pm

davielde wrote:I think that Waze invented a "Michigan Right". Fortunately the driver had common sense and just turned right...

Is the UR still open? I'd love to inquire about this route with waze staff as my efforts to find out what happened here have stalled.
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