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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby harling » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:08 pm

invented wrote:Like how "In 800 metres, get ready to turn left" should be "Get ready to turn left in 800 metres"

That problem isn't just grammatical. When informing the driver of an upcoming maneuver, the goal is to convey the level of urgency first, so that the driver can respond appropriately. You don't want a driver to start slowing down the moment the voice prompt says "Get ready...", only to find out that the turn is still a mile ahead. You also don't want the driver to postpone responding until the voice reaches the end (by which time half of that last quarter-mile is gone) and sudden braking is required.

    So the distance needs to come first.
Another consideration is that the imperative ("turn left") on its own implies immediacy. If you miss the distance announcement for some reason, or there is a long gap between the phrases, "In 800 metres... ... ... turn left", the "turn left" is going to register to the driver as an immediate instruction, even though it is still some distance ahead.

    So the distinction between preparing for a maneuver, and performing it immediately, needs to be maintained.
Given those constraints, what are the alternatives?
    "In 800 metres, be ready to turn left."
    "In 800 metres, you will be turning left."
Is there any way to word this that doesn't sound just as awkward?
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby harling » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:14 pm

And my area continues to get automatically-generated map errors in my area from GPS tracks that pre-date recent construction. It's bad enough that the GPS points are months out of date, but evidently they're still processing some of these trips, on ramps that have been completely rebuilt.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby harling » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:53 pm

Mike-1323 wrote:
Description: what the climate collaborative it will not need to my house to victory it is a wrong way there is no strange will not waver in my house wrong direction
And who says speech recognition doesn't work well? :lol:

ASR doesn't work so well without MPR (Manual ProofReading)!

It sounds like, as the routing gets near his house, it takes an indirect route; most likely a turn is incorrectly restricted, or his neighborhood is still partially basemapped. (I took a couple years of Gibberish in high school.)
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby harling » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:26 pm

RodNav wrote:Type: Wrong driving direction
Description: telling me to drive around the corner. Am standing at entrance of house.

If you'e standing at the entrance of the house why do you need a GPS to tell you where to go?
Oh, and from the position of the UR on the aerials I can confirm that you are at the entrance to the house.

The same thing happens when you have a shopping plaza built with its back up against a highway, and a big parking lot in front: Waze navigates you to the highway out back and says "Here you go!" That's why, when mapping a parking lot, it is critical to run a segment right along the storefronts.

In this case, you might be able to solve this problem with a minor change in road geometry, or by giving him a driveway. (I'm not saying give everyone in the neighborhood a driveway, just this one case, to make this one Wazer happy.)
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby harling » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:52 am

AndyPoms wrote:
Type: General error
Description: traffic incorrect


Sometimes you avoid the jam... Sometimes the jam is cleared... Sometimes you are the jam...

In Soviet Russia, jam avoids you! ;)
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby harling » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:00 pm

foxitrot wrote:Except that on some roads I'm occasionally driving much slower than their average speed. In such cases the ETA is totally unusable and I'd appreciate an option in the client for specifying my personal preferred max speed.

Waze's speed data is correlated to time of day*, so it takes time-of-day variations into account. If you're driving slower because overall traffic is slower, Waze's ETA should be accurate. If you're driving slower than prevailing traffic for some other reason, I don't see how any other nav is going to give you a better estimate.

* I'm not sure if it also takes into account weekday vs. weekend, season, holidays etc.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby hebermc » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:43 pm

Type: General error
Description: alagamento (flooding)
Reported on: Jun-13


Sorry, cant fix that.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby heckmandm » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:33 am

Description: location is here
Reported on: January 29


Oh wow, thanks! I thought it was over there. :roll:
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby heckmandm » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:56 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:UR for a long-standing pronunciation issue. This is local humor.

Problem: pronunciation of tualitin


City name is pronounced too-ALL-uh-tin, whereas Waze says it "too-ul-A-tin" But it's spelled "Tualatin." :lol:


Tualatin... is that nearby the Willa-METT River? Hahahaha. I lived in Salem for a time before moving back home; it took me about 3 or 4 months to pronounce things right out there. :lol:
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby heckmandm » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:19 am

driving79 wrote:Well, isn't that special...


:shock:

I'd recommend landmarking that, it could be a useful visual reference. <With no sarcasm whatsoever>
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