Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

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Re: Re: Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

Postby dmcconachie » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:28 pm

Shorty-CM wrote:I know exactly what he's referring to. The new editor is useful for some things, but bugs with other things still make it a requirement.

Bugs so hopefully as? Virtually the only thing I now use cartouche for is update requests!

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Re: Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

Postby dmcconachie » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:13 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
dmcconachie wrote:I'm pretty sure we were told that wasn't a problem as the routing server would use the 1way road over any turn non-restriction and is the exact reason they don't thus show in papyrus. I've not experienced any time when I've been routed the wrong way up a 1way street!

When parking lot roads are involved, I have been routed the wrong way on 1-way segments often. However, turn restrictions would not have an effect here.

That's a separate issue though and down to the fact that nothing in waze is absolute and penalties for traversing parking lot roads are as high as turn restrictions.
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Re: Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:10 pm

dmcconachie wrote:I'm pretty sure we were told that wasn't a problem as the routing server would use the 1way road over any turn non-restriction and is the exact reason they don't thus show in papyrus. I've not experienced any time when I've been routed the wrong way up a 1way street!

When parking lot roads are involved, I have been routed the wrong way on 1-way segments often. However, turn restrictions would not have an effect here.
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Re: Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

Postby Shorty-CM » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:18 pm

Only reason I caught it was because of a huge amount of reports of wrong turns the next day or two after my first four-hour session where I used papyrus. :P
dmcconachie wrote:I'm pretty sure we were told that wasn't a problem as the routing server would use the 1way road over any turn non-restriction and is the exact reason they don't thus show in papyrus. I've not experienced any time when I've been routed the wrong way up a 1way street!

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Re: Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

Postby bgodette » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:50 pm

jasonh300 wrote:
Shorty-CM wrote:Go crazy with 'allow all directions' along big, long stretches of highway. For, like, 4 hours, and then cry as you notice this now means that the whole thing allows driving the wrong way. And then spend another 4 hours fixing it in cartouche. Heh. Where 'allow all' works with 1-ways. For one example.


I'm not following...How does "allow all" not work with one-ways in Papyrus?
Using "allow all" (W) in Papyrus causes reverse connectivity onto one-way and no-entrance roads. It's probably not a good thing as turn restrictions and routing against one-way are two different costs.
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Re: Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

Postby dmcconachie » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:49 pm

I'm pretty sure we were told that wasn't a problem as the routing server would use the 1way road over any turn non-restriction and is the exact reason they don't thus show in papyrus. I've not experienced any time when I've been routed the wrong way up a 1way street!

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Re: Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

Postby Shorty-CM » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:42 pm

I just told you. It allows driving the wrong way. Open up both editors and look at it in cartouche after saving in papyrus after using allow all.
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Re: Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

Postby jasonh300 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:34 pm

Shorty-CM wrote:Go crazy with 'allow all directions' along big, long stretches of highway. For, like, 4 hours, and then cry as you notice this now means that the whole thing allows driving the wrong way. And then spend another 4 hours fixing it in cartouche. Heh. Where 'allow all' works with 1-ways. For one example.


I'm not following...How does "allow all" not work with one-ways in Papyrus?
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Re: Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

Postby Shorty-CM » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:35 pm

Go crazy with 'allow all directions' along big, long stretches of highway. For, like, 4 hours, and then cry as you notice this now means that the whole thing allows driving the wrong way. And then spend another 4 hours fixing it in cartouche. Heh. Where 'allow all' works with 1-ways. For one example.
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Re: Modifying the lock option (and some explanations)

Postby Shorty-CM » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:22 pm

I know exactly what he's referring to. The new editor is useful for some things, but bugs with other things still make it a requirement.
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