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How to handle The roads are too far apart ... problem?

Postby iahim » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:34 pm

The problem is caused by a gas station at the intersection of two roads. Waze detects traffic going through the gas station and thinks a road is missing. What is the best way to handle this problem:
1. Add a private road through the gas station.
2. Add the gas station as a landmark (does Waze use this information?)
3. Report as not a problem.

This problem also applies to drive through ATM's, fast food places, etc.

Thanks!
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Re: How to handle The roads are too far apart ... problem?

Postby iahim » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:36 pm

Thanks for your replies. I'll just add the parking lot road.

jasonh300 wrote:I posted the other day about having to put a Taco Bell drive-thru on the map because it's very close to a one-way street and runs in the opposite direction. Waze thought I was traveling against traffic.


I think Waze was just trying to warn you not to eat that s##t. :D
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Re: How to handle The roads are too far apart ... problem?

Postby iahim » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:45 pm

Well, the adjacent road is locked so I can't add the parking lot road unless I leave it unconnected. I will just do an experiment with the landmark and see if the problem comes back.
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Re: How to handle The roads are too far apart ... problem?

Postby iahim » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:22 pm

In my opinion the gas station landmark is the best approach, assuming Waze actually uses that landmark to avoid generating map problems. And it does not complicate the map by adding more roads and connections.

In my interpretation of the wiki the service road is for access or frontage roads that run parallel to the highway and is not appropriate for a gas station.
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Re: How to handle The roads are too far apart ... problem?

Postby iahim » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:01 pm

sagi wrote:Parking Lot roads, Parking Lot landmarks and gas station landmarks, all suppress the creation of map problems. If you think that are more road types or landmark types that should have this effect, please let us know.

Sagi,
Thanks for the clarification. I think this is important information and needs to be added in the wiki.

Perhaps ATM's, Banks and Restaurants should be suppressed too. I'm thinking some users may have used these landmarks in lieu of Parking Lot, so the drive-through traffic may generate map problems.
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Re: How to handle The roads are too far apart ... problem?

Postby jasonh300 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:15 pm

In reality, it's not a problem. Waze sees traffic driving through there, and wonders if there's a real road missing, and you tell it "no" by checking "not a problem". However, the problem may continually come back.

If you add a parking lot road through there, it's not going to affect routing during navigation, but you're telling Waze "it's not a problem, but here's a road...shut up about it!"
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Re: How to handle The roads are too far apart ... problem?

Postby jasonh300 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:28 pm

Or they could be just cutting through the gas station to avoid a red light.

The error comes up because Waze wants to know if the GPS data should be assigned to the adjacent road.

I posted the other day about having to put a Taco Bell drive-thru on the map because it's very close to a one-way street and runs in the opposite direction. Waze thought I was traveling against traffic.

I was under the impression that POI Landmarks were just for decoration and didn't serve any actual purpose for routing or GPS data.
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Re: How to handle The roads are too far apart ... problem?

Postby Nucleardean » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:04 am

Adding newer information to this old thread...

Recently I found that routing to a marked gas station that was on the intersection of two major (with median) streets routed me past the station to the next local street and had me come up "behind" the station were a road didn't exist. I fixed the issue by adding a service road to the entry/exits.

Example:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-122.0 ... =7&env=usa
I was traveling EB on Thornton so turning left onto NB Fremont and an immediate right into the driveway is the correct path. Waze sent me past to turn left on Moraine Street (NB) and left on Turner Pl (WB).

So it seems that adding the entry/exit driveways can make a big difference for gas stations routing and this seems key for Waze since there is (now) advertising tied to it. I had clicked the popup flag even though I go to that station regularly and was frustrated it routed me incorrectly.
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Re: How to handle The roads are too far apart ... problem?

Postby sagi » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:33 pm

Parking Lot roads, Parking Lot landmarks and gas station landmarks, all suppress the creation of map problems. If you think that are more road types or landmark types that should have this effect, please let us know.
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Re: How to handle The roads are too far apart ... problem?

Postby sagi » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:17 am

gettingthere wrote:Although Parking Lot roads only help if there are exactly where the Wazer is driving. Unfortunately if there are enough gps tracks going a slightly different way than where the parking lot roads are drawn, likely to get another map problem.


Actually the parking lot road doesn't have to match your drive exactly. Its enough that the last segment you are snapped to, is a parking lot road. So putting only entrance/exit parking lot road stubs should suffice in repressing map problems.

iahim wrote:Perhaps ATM's, Banks and Restaurants should be suppressed too.


ok, will check this option.
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