Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:27 am

Thortok2000 wrote:The main bug I have is that the TTS given of a destination when you've reached it seems to use a different TTS than the TTS of turn instructions.

As a turn instruction, 'Ave' is always Avenue, but as a destination, it rhymes with 'have.' =/


If you look at the list, you will see two columns for TTS results. While not many have been retested for both results, a few in the list are rather interesting for their differences.

Recently I tried to check the dual file results as I had done before, however was only able to find the files prefixed with "at" in my Android device.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:48 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:The map update cycle is failing on the NA server, but if there are existing segments which have the following abbreviations, please find a way to re-test client TTS and post the results:

Dr.
Penn
BUS
St.
Jr.
CR-###
Intl
Int'l
Nat'l
SH-###
Thwy


Easier said than done. Will email you with developments in the the lack of progress in testing.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:53 am

CBenson wrote:...
I still get "Street Stephens Church Road" here without the period. (with Samantha)


Are you clearing your TTS cache before each test?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:02 am

CBenson wrote:Yes. I've cleared the cache.

Next tile update try again. I'm hoping for "Ste." to also say "Sainte" as Canada is also part of North America.
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Re: MT = ?

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:51 am

dbraughlr wrote:What happened to MT = Montana ?


MT = mountain, which we have requested to be changed to Montana
Mt = Mount
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:00 pm

The consensus opinion a long time ago was to have NO positional dependence with anything.

One reason was consistency. Once we have something that is prepositionally dependent, then the understanding of everything else comes into question. So that sense alone, I feel it is worth the storm.

I know there are a lot of segments that start with "St" with no period for Saint, but it will be a great editing project for a lower rank editor to work on if nothing else.

I'm perfectly willing to go with the flow here, but if we are going to rehash our decisions made some time ago, then I think we need to take it to a Champ vote.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:10 pm

Since Alan has thankfully got the ball rolling again with Waze regarding TTS, after it stalled again with my submissions to them last, fall, my interest is now peaked again, and I have edited the Big List to reflect what has been submitted to Waze to date for revision.

An "A" in the right column indicates something we have submitted, and a "R" indicates something submitted to be removed.

Along the recent submissions from Alan and I, the entire list of two letter US State and Canadian province abbreviations have been submitted, as I indicated to Shirli that I would do following our Meet-Up.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:34 pm

The discussion regarding "MT" vs "Mt" merits some explanation.

The Big TTS Test List initially was derived from the abbreviation lists of several official sources. Most of them used only capital letters for the abbreviations. They were imported as is into the first worksheet.

Therefore the initial round of testing was NOT necessarily case aware. Jencard and I may have submitted our tests in upper, lower or mixed case.

Subsequent testing using specific capitalization has the abbreviation in BOLD letters.

This is documented somewhere in the bottom notes in the list.

The sand box areas for those tests were deleted by others a long time ago, so no further record exists on how they were tested.

Since the list was already so large, and since we had no progress for years with Waze understanding how it worked, testing was never resumed let alone started over from scratch. Further complications due to the dual file issues also thwarted further testing.

To be fair to Waze, they originally implied that they did not have a clear understanding of how it all worked either. We were told then that they would have to submit new rules to Nuance, which I do not think is the case any longer.

Please note that the Nuance TTS demo sites are NOT a good place to test anything for Waze. From what I can determine, that test site uses only the base data for the Samantha and Tom voices for the "American English". We believe that Waze actually uses the Nuance enhanced "Mobile" version built onto those base voice systems. Changes we submit are then exceptions introduced by Waze as an additional layer into this process.

Nuance Vocalizer 5 Interactive Demo (Includes Samatha and Tom)

Nuance Interactive Loquendo TTS Demo (Samantha voice is not available)

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:49 pm

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AlanOfTheBerg wrote:I have also noted that "Mt" and "Mt." both say "mount" but "Mt." sounds ... strange. It takes longer to say "mount" and there's a longer space after the word. "Mt" should be the standard.

Periods should be generally avoided unless necessary for differentiation ("St."; "Dr.").



I agree that we should reserve the period only for cases of ambiguity.

We do have "MT" in caps that is intended to say "Montana".

So while I think that is sufficient to differentiate it from "Mt", we can still add "Mt." to say "Mount", but only list "Mt" in our recommended abbreviation list.

Similarly, Alan also questioned my submission of "BUSN" for "Business" along with his prior submission of "BUS". I replied that we could indicate in the recommended list, that "BUS" should be used if signage says "BUS" or "BUSINESS", and only use "BUSN" when signage dictates.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:52 pm

Didn't you know you are now an island to yourselves? :shock:
Tell everyone it is a late Apri Fools joke.

Actually we are looking at what can be done short of just reverting "FM" back.

Would the format "FM-xxx" work, or are you way too invested in "FM xxx" without the hyphen?
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