Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:20 am

sketch wrote:Have you tried "Thwy" yet? That's how it's abbreviated up on the exit signs up in Baton Rouge.


CBenson suggested that some time ago, however it has not been tested yet.

Don't you or jasonh300 ever get a chance to hear it?

At the rate that our map tiles are getting updated, I could drive down to Baton Rouge and learn the results faster!
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Re: Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze C

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:43 pm

BrianCanFixIT wrote:I've just encountered a sign with "Drwy" for Driveway. so I guess the other permutation for this would also be valid: drwy, drway.



Thanks Brian. Added. Did you happen to hear the TTS results for them? Or were you not actually there.

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:34 pm

In a rush to get as much of the TTS abbreviation testing into WME before the update, I've added every outstanding entry from the list to WME last night.

Thanks to CBenson's link, I've also added the relavant abbreviations from the "Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, Section 1A.15 Abbreviations Used on Traffic Control Devices" list today.

Anyone want to drive to NW Ohio or to the ski mountains of Colorado to test all of our entries. Maybe Jen can come to farm country, and I can go skiing!
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:08 am

CBenson wrote:I see that "Pr" has been added to the spreadsheet. Please note that the entries I have heard are for "Pr." - with the period (if that makes a difference).


Added.

I have started to add more abbreviations with periods, and once future batch of abbreviations is tested, I may go back through the list and test those that failed again with periods to see if there is any change.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:10 am

DonJ2 wrote:Does anybody know if "Par" is announced as "Parade" via TTS?

I did not see it in the spreadsheet. I'm asking because of a UR that says "Par St" is not "Parade St". Not a single segment along "Par St" is or ever has been "Parade St", so I'm wondering if TTS says "Parade St" instead?



I've added "par" for "Parade" to the list and the test rig. It may be quite a while before we can actually test it of course.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:50 pm

CBenson wrote: I would also note I was somewhat surprised (not having any use for the "Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices" except for waze map editing) at how much each state might change that list. Here is Maryland's for example.


Yes that is a surprise. Maryland has quite a few more abbreviations than the fed list too. I looked my state of Ohio, and our abbreviation list is a copy of the federal list.

I supposed to do the our list right we should look at these for EVERY state. I'm afraid however I'm not up to the task, as our current list represents a fair amount of effort to date, and with only 35% tested so far, there will be a lot more to test once the map tiles are updated again.

Would anyone like to compare the MUTCD list for every state against our list and submit any additional abbreviations we should add?

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/sta ... /index.htm
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Re: Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze C

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:46 am

harling wrote:Here's a TTS issue that I noticed the other day.

We have a "Summer St" in town. TTS correctly pronounces it "summer street". Off of that street is a court, named "Summer St Ct". TTS pronounces it as "summer saint court". Wait, what?

There are a lot of roads around here for which "St" and other abbreviations need to be pronounced the same regardless of position. I hadn't noticed this before because these are generally small side-streets not used for through-traffic, but people do live on them, and I can think of at least half a dozen examples off the top of my head in my own small town alone. (Smith St Ct off of Smith St, King St Ct off of King St, etc...)


Oh great. Will have to create some examples to add for positional testing now.

This probably means other abbreviations are going to be conditional on position too.


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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:52 am

Based on harling's and jasonh300's last posts, I think our catch phrase when this is all said and done is going to have to be, "When in doubt, spell it out!" At least until we get an emulator.

Maybe that should be added to the Wiki now as the first rule of thumb for the use of abbreviations in WME.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:37 pm

harling wrote:At present, the text on the display matches the signage, which I think is the best arrangement.
+1

harling wrote:Personally, I think it would be better for 'St.' to be "saint" anywhere, and "St" to be "street anywhere.
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harling wrote:But if the decision comes down that these abbreviations will remain positional as well as lexical, I'll start spelling them out.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:58 pm

I think CBenson also caught part of this "Saint" and "Street" issue in the past.

Since case has not seemed to be important based on our test results so far, I've only added a subset of those possibilities to the list.

For the use or not of a period in the abbreviation, I think I've add all possibilities.

Here are the iterations added to the list and test rig:
st middle st
St middle St
st middle st.
St middle St.
st. middle st
St. middle St
st. middle st.
St. middle St.
st st st
St St St
st st st
st st st.
st st. st.
st st. st
st st. st.
st. st st
st. st st.
st. st. st
st. st. st.


In each case we are hoping for "st" to say "street" and "st." to say "saint".
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