Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:04 pm

invented wrote:Can someone try "RR" to see what happens? like RR-20.


Do you mean "Rural Route" or "Rural Road" or something else?

Note we currently have "RR" in the list to test for "Rail Road".
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:08 pm

LittlestLou wrote:So, I already mentioned this to Weezer but I noticed for the very first time today the TTS for CONST ZN was "Kahnst Zee N" and not the intended Construction Zone. I can also confirm this was previously not a problem as I heard it correctly within the last couple of months (not sure exactly when since I don't routinely travel this area). Any thoughts or anyone else noticing this problem all of a sudden?



Read my post here. This could be the issue.

Do you have an Android device? If so, is there any way you could send the TTS audio files?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:28 pm

Typically they are one file number different from each other. One will contain just the names of the segment and the other will have the names prefaced with the word "at" like the files in my message about boro, par, and ph saying borough, parade, and phone in one file but borough, par and p h in the other

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:13 pm

khaytsus wrote:Anyone know the proper abbreviation for Sideroad? I thought it was Srd and had been using this, but that is pronounced "S R D". Not seeing it in the spreadsheet either.


Remember that the list is a test to learn every possible abbreviation that the TTS knows, and not necessarily a recommendation of what to use.

Since this is a bit of an usual case, and the name is not that long, I think it is best to not abbreviate it at all. (Falling back to our motto here of, "When in doubt, spell it out".

Of course I would still like to test for possible abbreviations, just not sure where to start. I did a Google search and found a few uses for "Sideroad" but did not see any useful abbreviations to test.

If you can find actual street signs using an abbreviation, it may help.

If you find the name as two words, then "Side Rd" should be fine. If you find "Sideroad" or "Side-road" then I suppose a specific abbreviation may be in order. From what I have read so far, it looks like the single word noun, "sideroad" is pretty much a Canadian usage, with little additional information. And as already pointed out, at least the Candian Post has no abbreviation listed for it.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:01 pm

khaytsus wrote:...
just "S R D" isn't good either. :)


True, since with the spaces, TTS would speak it as "South R D". And the only way to get the four cardinal letters spoken as letters is to put them in lower case in single quotes, which would sure make your case look strange.

If you look close, there are also a few things in the list that we actually recommend to NOT use, and hopefully Waze will find a way to remove them in the future. (Like "Penn" for Pennsylvania, as then there is no way to have "Penn Road" spoken correctly, unless you misspell it :( )
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:58 pm

LittlestLou wrote:Co Rd is now pronounced as "Coe Road" and not "County Road". Also contrary to naming conventions on the wiki. Again, this is a new issue, not a problem up until this release...



Are you sure, because I could swear that it has been that way for a while. We have a ton of county roads in NW Ohio, and we have slowly been changing them to "CR xxx" as we canvas the rural areas. "CR" does get pronounced correctly as "County Road", and not to be confused with "Country Road".
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:10 pm

xteejx wrote:OK its all St are now saying Saint. Wtf guys? The Street Paul's Street I could live with as Saint is only some roads, but now every Street is Saint, seriously sort it out and revert all recent changes to the UK TTS. Or better yet, give one of us access to the rules on Vocalizer and we can do it in a few minutes!

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Send a message about this "Support" and see what happens. They don't read this thread.

On the other hand, I have been in contact recently with Waze about this and a few other issues, and they are looking for a possible solution.

I doubt that giving us direct access to the Vocalizer interface will be a possibility however. They would probably have to build an interface to it.

To make matters worse, the issue may not be something solvable with Vocalizer. There are actually two issues at hand. One is the overall TTS database and customized "mobile app" database from Nunance, and another is the exception rule system that Vocalizer can adjust for individual things.

Since I've never found any public documentation for the Nuance Vocalizer, so I really do not know how it interacts with the databases, nor what exceptions it can handle.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:13 pm

xteejx wrote:St at the end is now saying Saint. Will look into this at my end as I didn't name it and it might have a dot.

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What "voice" are you using for Waze? In the US we use Nuance's "Samantha" or "Tom", however I suspect that the voice(s) for the UK, may not use the same TTS databases.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:31 am

jasonh300 wrote:
How about CR-##?


Last February it worked. For some reason I had an "Add" notation for it. Guess I should retest it.

Now that the tile turn around time has shortened I need to test the rest of the list. Hopefully before mid January.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:19 am

sbelekevich wrote:...
Wisconsin county roads have been pronounced "Coh Road" since I started using Waze 10 months ago. We've been changing them to CR-xxx though (still works with the dash)



Thanks for reconfirming that.
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