Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:07 pm

I don't doubt that there is a legitimate interest in divorcing TTS expansion from position. And I'm not saying "St" should never be location-independent. But the map isn't ready.

If "St." is now "saint" we can get going on that sort of edit-a-thon. But I think some time should be allowed to pass before the change to the TTS is made. There should be some sort of balance here.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:25 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
Ehhh... do we really though, in this case? Maybe, but it's going to be a mess. And if there's a street named Street, "Street" wouldn't be abbreviated anyway.

Perhaps not. I was going by our guidelines which have been "abbreviations do not vary based on where they are." We can start making a list of exceptions to this rule, or can stick to it.

Perhaps this should be the sole exception, simply because of the prevalence of "St Whatever Ave" and similar roads throughout the country. It's not worth causing such a storm of problems just so that we can stick to a principle.

Not that it's a bad principle, but when a principle applied too strictly leads to absurd results, its application should be reconsidered.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:17 pm

Alan, have we included "BL" and "BS" for "Business Loop" and "Business Spur", or have we elected just to use "BUS" for Interstate business routes?

Also, how about "CONN" for Connector?

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:45 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:It may not be a problem generally but 1) we want 100% positional independence, and 2) I bet there is one street named street somewhere. :)

Ehhh... do we really though, in this case? Maybe, but it's going to be a mess. And if there's a street named Street, "Street" wouldn't be abbreviated anyway.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:08 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:"St" at the beginning of a segment name is pronounced "saint"

I don't believe this to be a problem. As long as "St" is still pronounced "Street" at the end, before a slash, and before another abbreviation, it's fine. There are so many instances of "St", no period, meaning "saint" on the map that it would be a mistake to change the way "St" behaves without addressing them all.

Besides, wasn't the problem that "St"/"St." was being pronounced "Street" in the wrong places, not the other way around?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:23 am

That was my suspicion — I couldn't check the spreadsheet earlier.

Test again before taking my word on it — it appears I spelled out "Mount" on the exit I was thinking of back in June. But I do recall seeing "Mt Clemens" and hearing it pronounced "Mount Clemens", correctly, perhaps before that.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:54 pm

DwarfLord wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Already, MT = "mountain" according to the big list.
Does this mean "Mt St Helens Dr" would TTS as "Mountain Saint Helens Drive"? In that case street names beginning with "Mount" should probably continue to spell it out.

Is that only for MT in caps though? I'm rather certain "Exit 2xx: N River Rd / Mt Clemens" is pronounced properly, as of late last year.


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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:30 pm

Interesting. Wonder if it's relevant that it's the last word in the string.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:28 pm

Did that change? Because "St Claude Ave" works properly without the period here. Or at least it used to...
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:42 pm

CBenson wrote:I have reported this in the past for "Pkwy." However, this morning waze gave me correct directions of "Parkway South" for "Pkwy S"

I've only ever heard it reported for "N". So, "parkway n", but "parkway south", "parkway east", and "parkway west".
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