Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:41 pm

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jasonh300 wrote:What was the exact name of the expressway, as named on the Waze map? It's working fine at the expressway near me.


It's "N Central Expy".

Whatever this TTS problem is, it doesn't seem to be consistent. Most streets announce fine, there seem to be just a few that don't.

I haven't figured out if it's always the same streets that fail to announce the abbreviations correctly, or if it's just a random failure that can occur on any street. Unfortunately, the streets that I've heard fail are far from my house so I can't easily go and drive them again.

All the examples I saw with the "N" problem seem to be where Waze doesn't expect a "north", that is, wherever the N is not preceded by a street abbreviation or a numerical highway designation. So it didn't work on "Cesar Chavez N" or "I-35W N", while I assume it would work on "Cesar Chavez Dr N" or "I-35 N".

Was "N Central Expy" only a problem with the "expressway" portion, or with the north as well? I would expect N at the front to work for North; I take "N Causeway Blvd" all the time and it always works.

Maybe "Expwy" would work for expressway where "Expy" does not. "Expwy" is the preferred abbreviation under the MUTCD. "Expy" is a USPS abbreviation we chose to prefer because (1) it's shorter and (2) some states use it on their signs anyway.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:44 pm

spock7230 wrote:I've skimmed through the topic so far and have found a few entries that match the "street" vs "saint" problem with the "St" abbreviation, but haven't seen a clear answer yet on a best practice.

As part of my routing directions the other day, I was told to turn onto "Mechanic Saint Bypass," which has the street name label of "Mechanic St Byp" Is the best practice to spell out "St" as "Street" in the case where "street" isn't the last word in the street name? (Permalink) Otherwise, "St" is spoken "street" so far for me.

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I think it'll also pronounce it "Street" if it's second to last before a cardinal direction (NSEW). I don't know about secondaries (NE, SW, etc.). But "to Broad St Overpass" is pronounced "Broad Saint Overpass".

A slash is treated like an end of line, though, I guess, because "Carondelet St / St Charles Ave" is pronounced "Carondelet Street, Saint Charles Avenue".
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:48 am

Uppercase E in single quotes definitely works for "eee" as opposed to "east". I have to use it on "Robert 'E' Lee Blvd".
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:19 pm

PhantomSoul wrote:Does anyone know if the common abbreviation "Twp" gets expanded to Township?
According to the spreadsheet, it does not.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:34 am

txemt wrote:I've been spelling out "business". I'd rather have waze say "I-20 business" instead of "I-20 bus".

Jason and I have been doing the same.

Anyone know if Tex or Tex. is expanded to Texas?

edit Or Tx (small x), for that matter.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:45 am

It apparently hasn't been tested, but does anyone know whether "Univ" is pronounced "University"?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Mon May 20, 2013 3:48 pm

Agreed. The nuances of map editing are confusing enough already. We don't need more of them, especially just for pronunciation.

Every GPS system on the market pronounces street names wrong all the time. Waze does some better, some worse than others. Yes, we like to be better than everyone, but the benefit we'd gain from this is small compared to the pain of editing this into every segment of the map Waze might get wrong.

People can figure out that "Arnoo" means "Arnoult" and not "Severn" or "Hessmer" or any of the streets nearby. It isn't crucial that Waze says it with the T like everybody in town. It's good enough not to have to worry about it THIS much.


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Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

Postby sketch » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:02 am

Timbones wrote:
orbitc wrote:Would you put Avenue S as Ave 'S' or just leave it as Avenue 'S'?

Not sure. Is it "Avenue Ess" or "Avenue South"? Which is the noun? Does it really need to be abbreviated at all? Maybe it's time to get rid of them altogether. Devices have much higher resolutions these days, and there's plenty of space on the screen for full road names... [/rant]

I don't think so. Resolutions are getting higher but not all screens are getting bigger. I think you'll have a tough time justifying spelling out "Boulevard" or "Throughway" in any case.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:52 pm

CBenson wrote:
sketch wrote:it should be "Exit" rather than "Exits", if that's what the big green sign says

Just to clarify, you are saying it should be what the big green sign says, correct?

Correct. I think this varies by state. In Louisiana, it'll say "Exit 232A-B", for example.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:22 pm

CBenson wrote:This exit has been named "Exits 13A-B-C: US-301 / MD-3 Richmond / Crofton" to match the BGS for quite some time. I drive through it regularly. TTS says: "Exits thirteen ayybeesea...youess threeohone...emdee three Richmond...Crofton." It sounds fine to me. I've never seen or heard a complaint.

That's how it should be done (more or less — it should be "Exit" rather than "Exits", if that's what the big green sign says). Read the fifth bullet point in this section of the road naming wiki: http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Road ... n-ramps.29
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