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Re: Waze is still changing direction on editor based on driv

Postby bgodette » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:02 am

When we get the next NA tile update I'll have some more answers on automatic processes vs segments and turn restrictions.

The pending test segments involve freshly created segments (new IDs). The only thing done to them was setting Country/State/City/Name, direction to Unknown, and junctioning to cross streets without touching any turn restrictions.

The expected results are: Direction and Speed will get automatically updated by drive analysis. This has been tested several times and does happen, and there's nothing wrong with it and is actually useful functionality if used correctly.

What's being tested: Do untouched turn restrictions from editor created segments get updated by the automatic processes (ie they're soft), or are they hard restrictions. Based on separate experimentation with the side-effect of QW turning segments with soft restrictions orange (updating them), I expect turns from these segments to automatically open from drive analysis as well.
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Re: Waze is still changing direction on editor based on driv

Postby bgodette » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:59 pm

My test vs fresh locked "Unknown" direction segments went live with the last tile update, but I've only had a chance to drive across them once.

My prior testing of direction updating on a very busy minor highway segment would not update from Unknown to one-way or one-way to two-way, so there appears to be a number of drives limit. Further testing vs low traffic and newly created confirms that automatic direction updating happens, but all tests were performed vs unlocked segments. The current test is checking vs locked status.
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Waze is still changing direction on editor based on drives.

Postby bigbear3764 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:41 am

Do you think that waze had a problem with a tile while updating, so it goes back and finds an older one to up load?

I have seen some roads that I swore I updated the geometry of, then I find them askew again.


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Re: Waze is still changing direction on editor based on driv

Postby Brshk1 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:59 am

I am pretty sure that roads in Waze have their own life. I have seen turns that are enabled where it is clear that they shouldn't, with me as the last editor. I make lots of mistakes, but some of them are too strange to admit.

And after 9 months, it is very likely that locked segments get unlocked automatically. Not sure if this is a feature or a result of gps tracks from other roads crossing at different levels.
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Re: Waze is still changing direction on editor based on driv

Postby CBenson » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:03 pm

gerben wrote:I have seen it happen in the Cartouche era. Since WME, I have not seen this happen. I purposedly unlocked a street near my home half a year ago, and have waited since then for it to change to a one-way. It does not happen, even though I have travelled it at least once a day, always in the same direction.

Same here. Only had this happen in the Cartouche era. I have tried test this since. But I have the encouraging problem that there enough wazers around that I can't find a two-way segment that only I drive anymore.
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Waze is still changing direction on editor based on drives.

Postby crazycomputingdotnet » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:53 am

Waze is currently still changing direction based on drive history even after an area manager has manually set direction. Example:
http://www.waze.com/cartouche_old/?zoom ... 1=39357179 This segment shows it was edited by me on 1/15 where I had set direction.

I had checked this area on the 17th and changed them all back (Including this one I thought) and If I remember right the date on those segments was in March. I did drive on this road today and I think that could be why that segment changed to a one way.

Now I am the only Wazer that I know that drives in this area, and this road I only drive down one way, which is South and then when I hit York I head back West (York for 1/2 a mile was changed to a one way pointing West as well).

I know for a fact that this section of road was Two-Way. I have seen this section of road in the editor many many times and know I would not have set a section a mile and a half long as one way and then missed that mistake the many times I have seen this area since then. All these roads were mostly unknown when I started working this area.

If you set a road as two way, and it is only driven on in one direction it will revert back to a one-way.
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Re: Waze is still changing direction on editor based on driv

Postby crazycomputingdotnet » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:35 am

xtago wrote:Probably been edited by someone.

If you edited that road in march it'd be around 6 months since you looked at it last right now and would seem theat is in the client.

You can change a lot of stuff but 4 days later it could be changed again by someone else but you wouldn't know until you see things in the map updates.

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I looked at that before I changed it and it was me. I was the one who last touched it. The person who touched it before me was admin(6) basemapped. I wish I could have blamed IGN, but sadly they didn't touch these roads last. These main roads I set them all at 2 way. I am going to have to watch this two mile segment closer and see if it gets changed again. I am going to go through that 2 mile strech and set the direction, leave them unlocked and drive down it only one direction to see if it gets changed again in 6 months.
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Re: Waze is still changing direction on editor based on driv

Postby crazycomputingdotnet » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:26 am

It didn't take long. Maybe 15-20 drives, but Waze reset direction to one way again.

http://www.waze.com/cartouche_old/?zoom ... 6=39357179

These were all set to 2 way (again) in Aug. I checked and double checked in both editors. I came back today to see and Waze changed the roads back to one way. Again, I am the only one that drives this road, I have only driven it one way, and it changed it to the direction I traveled.
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Re: Waze is still changing direction on editor based on driv

Postby crazycomputingdotnet » Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:32 am

I ended up killing that two mile stretch and rebuilding it. Maybe corrupt segments. Will test again when that becomes live.
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Waze is still changing direction on editor based on drives.

Postby fvwazing » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:33 pm

harling wrote:So the question is, under what conditions does Waze currently auto-adjust turn restrictions, versus flagging them for review?


It would be best if they were FIRST flagged and then, if no human intervention is triggered, LATER auto-adjusted. Later should be in the magnitude of weeks.
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