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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby Timbones » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:21 am

davipt wrote:Issue one was bridging those segments at the wrong order and no longer getting the whole roundabout A-->B. But that may not be a problem for the routing, just ugly.

The second issue is that the bridging increases the level, and it may happen that a roundabout with different levels per segment may confuse the routing and give wrong instructions.

I don't believe that having 'backwards' segments on a roundabout will necessarily cause problems. I've been looking at a few, and found them appearing on roundabouts that otherwise route just fine. I'm still investigating it some more though.

Levels have no consequence on routing at all.
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby thefatveganchef » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:49 am

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It has been reported to Waze devs and they are looking into it.
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby thefatveganchef » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:22 am

Yup, first thing I got. My sloppy editing in old I suppose.

I wonder if it is related to an issue we stumbled upon where roads were changing direction. There is a 2 mile segment near my house that I am the only one I drive on, and I only drive on it one way. I made it a 2 way way back in march, and it has since changed to a one way, switched it back and same. This happened three times. I have gone ahead and killed the entire stretch and rebuilt it, and am testing to see if it does it again. So far it hasn't, however every few days or so when I drive on it I get the pac man.
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby thefatveganchef » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:50 am

Thanks. Odd that there are soft turns when that is not a basemapped roundabout.
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby thefatveganchef » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:11 pm

If you zoom in and out sometimes you can see the center node.

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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby thefatveganchef » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:37 pm

There is a roundabout I looked at before replying in WME. At certain zoom levels you can see it.
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby thefatveganchef » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:22 pm

On those roundabouts, I am not seeing the center node. Are you deleting them?
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby RodNav » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:12 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Pretty sure Waze rarely, if ever anymore, will do geometry adjustments based on drives. That made sense long ago when there were not very many editors, but today there are enough editors that that type of process is no longer necessary.

I seem to remember that, at the time when waze changed the meaning of 'Lock', that it was also stated that the auto-adjusting of segments was being removed. I haven't done a forum search yet to confirm that.
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby jondrush » Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:52 am

Conversely, is there a way to force roundabouts to no longer be roundabouts? Sometimes the fastest way to draw a roughly circular or oval road would be to start with a roundabout. But I don't want to screw up the TTS.
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby jasonh300 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:22 am

davipt wrote:Now this roundabout is a good example of how one learns and tries different things over almost a year. As far as I've understood the sistem, waze does moves segments and nodes around based on the gps tracks. This means that roundabouts will move away from the center of the circle on the satellite, and in certain cases where GPS coverage is less good, will even become slightly oval or completely dead like the first link I sent. And when this happens, the dozens of nodes of the original roundabout becomes much less, like you can see on this one.


I've never seen any evidence that Waze moves segments or junctions outside of a roundabout, but I've seen exactly what you're talking about and wondered about it. Has anyone else seen roundabouts conform to the GPS tracks?
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