Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJians

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Re: Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJia

Postby orbitc » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:24 pm

I second that.
Some of my landmarks are gone too. Mostly in NJ and some in NY area.
We should not have to lock these landmarks but there has to be a better way to retained them.
I too spend fair amount time to create them.
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Re: Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJia

Postby shawndoc » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:44 pm

Maybe it was hurricane Sandy?
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Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJians

Postby Wajo357 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:40 pm

Hi,

Over the last week, I've been noticing an event occur that other big NJ editors and I have previously discussed - landmarks being deleted.

In the Northern NJ Region, where I do a lot of editing, all of my previous landmarks including schools, malls, businesses, shopping centers, religious institutions, rivers, etc have all been deleted. No, my layer is on :). I do see some still remaining, but most of it is gone. Especially the ones that took time for me to do and the ones I use personally.

Some editors are telling me that small chain restaurants shouldn't be included, but this is a much bigger problem - everything is being deleted!

The biggest detractor for one of the larger editors of the state, is to have his/her work deleted. Some of the other area managers are saying even their locked landmarks are getting deleted.

I would like to say this is a bug, but I believe this is the work of somebody who 'thinks' he is doing the right thing. Even if the person is correct, he should at least PM the people who created it and discuss it with them!

This is why I request the below feature for those of us on the brink of quitting editing because of this nonsense:

-The editor should email the creator of a segment/landmark whenever it is being deleted by somebody else. The email should also state the username of the person who is doing this.

Of course you can expand on the functionality to not permamently delete anything for the first few days if the creator objects... etc. But the basic feature is pretty easy to implement. This way the creator can PM the deleter and start a dialog. If it turns out the person who is deleting things is non-responsive and abusive, Waze can ban them.

Of course I would love if Waze was able to restore all deletions from this person (if we ever find him/her), but I doubt Waze keeps those records.

Can anyone help in our dilemma? Any recommendations? If you look at the map of our area, you'll see everything was deleted. Even many of my parking lots were deleted as well. My attempt to find the person only lead to someone who was cleaning up the empty nodes this guy left behind.

I'll send this thread to a few of my co-editors who can chime in on the experience we've been seeing in this region...
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Re: Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJia

Postby Wajo357 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:25 pm

WeeeZer14 wrote:I sent some examples I have from PM conversations on to support. For a few of the situations I was told about, support says there were never any landmarks there. For the others, each delete seems to be by a different person.

So they are asking for more examples of valid landmarks being deleted. You can just post permalinks for them in this thread and I will make sure support sees them.


Weeezer14,
We really appreciate your effort. The ones I can quickly show you are the ones I interact with on a daily basis, but there are MANY MANY more:

1) Parking lot landmark + School landmark above selected segment: https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=7&lat ... s=67726467

2) Landmark for pathmark (and possibly for the parking lot):
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&lat ... TTTTTTTTFT

3) Parking lot landmark, parking lot road, and store landmark to the left of the parking lot
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=7&lat ... TTTTTTTTFT

4) The 2 rivers (the landmarks went above and below the given view, but this is the junction for the 2 of them:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=3&lat ... s=26177887

5) Parking lot landmark + business landmark:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&lat ... TTTTTTTTFT

6) School, possibly field
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&lat ... TTTTTTTTFT

Those I am 100% sure they existed previously.
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Re: Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJia

Postby Wajo357 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:32 pm

WeeeZer14 wrote:I passed the latest list of examples onto support and here is the response after their research:

The editor who removed the university in the first post is a high-ranking user who made a mistake.

The rest of the deletions seem to have been preformed by 1 individual and we're contacting this person to have him stop.


OMG... I did not expect a response back that quickly. Thank you so much. I really appreciate you and the Waze staff for taking care of us.

I also can't believe it really is 1 individual who is doing this...
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Re: Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJia

Postby Wajo357 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:47 pm

I know...

I don't know if you passed along my recommendation, but I do appreciate all of your effort.
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Re: Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJia

Postby Wajo357 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:10 pm

Weeezer14, any update with this?

Thanks again...
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Re: Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJia

Postby Wajo357 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:43 pm

not really, but almost everything has been wiped clean and I haven't rebuilt anything until I found out more on what happened with this person. Can you ping the Waze staff again for a followup?

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Re: Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJia

Postby WeeeZer14 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:06 pm

I sent some examples I have from PM conversations on to support. For a few of the situations I was told about, support says there were never any landmarks there. For the others, each delete seems to be by a different person.

So they are asking for more examples of valid landmarks being deleted. You can just post permalinks for them in this thread and I will make sure support sees them.
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Re: Important Feature Request + Heavy Rant on behalf of NJia

Postby WeeeZer14 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:27 pm

I passed the latest list of examples onto support and here is the response after their research:

The editor who removed the university in the first post is a high-ranking user who made a mistake.

The rest of the deletions seem to have been preformed by 1 individual and we're contacting this person to have him stop.
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