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Postby Nel101 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:43 pm

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=7&lat ... TTTTTTTTFT

I have noticed this intersection due to a user report stating "Wrong Direction". And by judging the way this intersection was setup, I can see why. A waze user have recently updated this intersection but it's unnecessarily complicated and not following the general guidelines by the Wiki manual. So should I just go ahead and change this according to the Wiki manual. I just don't want to "stepping" on anyone shoes.
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Postby CBenson » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:53 pm

I would certainly reach out to PhantomSoul to see what was that recent editor was trying to accomplish. I don't know what "closed due to inoperable signal" means or how long such a closure is expected to remain in place.
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Postby Nel101 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:55 pm

I'm thinking maybe the traffic light was out right after Hurricane Sandy, just as thousands were out around the state.
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Re: Recommendation

Postby PhantomSoul » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:39 am

I put the extra connectors in after seeing errors for wrong direction when drivers would make a u-turn from either US-130 approach. Also, approaching this intersection northbound on US-130, there is a very long left turn lane, so the objective was to get Waze to tell you to keep left well before the intersection before telling you to actually turn left.

I think we can simplify this by putting a single junction node on the southbound side of US-130 that would connect both directions of CR-522 to the west, as well as the single 2-way segment going east to Fresh Ponds Rd. This will resolve the u-turn problems. I'd still like to keep the left-turn connector northbound on US-130 to get advanced warning to keep left.

The recent storm in NJ knocked over nearby power lines, leaving the signal at this intersection inoperable. As a result, local authorities blocked off all turns between the 2 US-130 roadways. Last weekend, I saw utility crews working on those powerlines, but as of leaving town last Sunday, the traffic signal was not yet working. I don't get back home until Friday, so I can't verify it, but if anyone knows for sure that it's been restored, we can re-allow those turns.
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Re: Recommendation

Postby PhantomSoul » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:50 am

Ok, I simplified this intersection as described above. Not sure what to make of the wrong direction report though.

I left the connector between the 2 directions of US-130 as "direction unknown" to prevent Waze from routing drivers over that segment. If anyone knows for sure that the traffic signal has been restored, please feel free to restore it back to "two-way." Otherwise, I'll check it out on Friday afternoon when I get back home.

Sorry about the mess...
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Re: Recommendation

Postby Nel101 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:50 pm

Thank you PhantomSoul for fixing that. Although the traffic light is probably working by now, I don't go that way too often to check. So if you could change the direction of the connector once you can confirm it on Friday, that would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Postby PhantomSoul » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:19 pm

I'll swing by there this afternoon. After all, it's like 1/2 mile from my house ;)
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Re: Recommendation

Postby PhantomSoul » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:09 pm

BTW, I reconnected this on Friday (it's been reopened); now it just has to be updated to the map tile server.
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Re: Recommendation

Postby weeezer14 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:35 pm

PhantomSoul wrote:I left the connector between the 2 directions of US-130 as "direction unknown" to prevent Waze from routing drivers over that segment.

FYI, that WON'T work like that. It may make the penalty higher, but not by much. All direction unknown really does is tell the backend to automatically change the direction based upon historical data once there is enough. So Waze could automatically change it back to two-way anytime.
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Re: Recommendation

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:39 pm

Unknown=The person editing the map doesn't know the direction, so Waze will be allowed to figure it out by routing on the segment both directions. If the turns onto the segment are hard-restricted prior to setting to unknown, the likelihood of Waze routing onto it are less, though.
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