To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

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Re: To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:17 pm

Despite not liking having to do it, I would map it. WeeeZer14 and others have posted good reasons why it should be mapped.
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Re: To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:04 am

jasonh300 wrote:
invented wrote:Why would it say "2nd exit" in Waze 3.5 which says like "stay straight for [road]" ?


At a normal 4-way roundabout, it'll say "at the roundabout take the 1st exit" for a right turn...then 2nd exit to go straight, 3rd exit to turn left, and 4th exit for a U-turn.

Maybe I'm missing what you mean by a "normal" 4-way roundabout... But a roundabout for roads meeting at right angles, it will never say exit number, but will say turn or continue for all but the u-turn, for which I imagine it will say 4th exit.
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Re: To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:03 pm

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To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

Postby AndyPoms » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:51 am

What do you all think about mapping this roundabout? https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=7&lat=41.91404&lon=-72.7287&layers=BTTFFTTTFTTTTTTTTTTTTFT

There really are two options - continue straight through or make a U-Turn and go back where you came from...
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Re: To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

Postby AndyPoms » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:49 am

shawndoc wrote:Is it going to be common for someone to need to make a U-Turn there?

From what I can tell, no....
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Re: To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

Postby AndyPoms » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:08 am

Ikkabar wrote:Is it possible that there will soon be a new housing development to the north or south, accessed off the roundabout?
Not likely...

Ikkabar wrote: If there is then I would map it, otherwise I'd leave it as it is, and only map it if there are a lot of UR's for it.
Only that one that's there in the image (in the last year or so...)
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Re: To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

Postby AndyPoms » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:41 pm

WeeeZer14 wrote:2.) The road appears to change names here. The roundabout makes that change more obvious and stops (or slows down) an editor from trying to "fix" things and propagate one name to the other segment to delete the junction representing the current name change.
The road doesn't change names at the roundabout, the road changes names at the town border which is to the west of the roundabout. So we're still going to have the extra node "issue", but I don't think that is enough to warrant not mapping it...

WeeeZer14 wrote:1.) It does represent an "obstacle" that must be dealt with. Being told your next turn is in 3 miles and then coming upon the roundabout in the dark of night could be surprising, confusing, or even dangerous (if the person is stupid and relying on Waze too much).
Very good point...
WeeeZer14 wrote:3.) Someone is going to think there should be a roundabout there. Do you trust the average editor to do it right?
Someone already tired to (and did it incorrectly) after my original post... :roll:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Despite not liking having to do it, I would map it. WeeeZer14 and others have posted good reasons why it should be mapped.
As always, Alan does a good job so summarizing everything, I'll be mapping this shortly...
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Re: To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

Postby AndyPoms » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:40 pm

In CT, that's officially (CT DOT) not a roundabout, it's a "traffic calming device"... Doesn't keep people from not knowing how to navigate them (go around like a traffic circle)... Personally I think it's too small to try to map as a roundabout...
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Re: To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

Postby CBenson » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:31 pm

I have not been mapping roundabouts with less than three streets connected to them.
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Re: To map or not to map - Roundabout in middle of road

Postby CBenson » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:41 pm

I believe it is angles and number of exits. My limited experience matches the explanation in the wiki, but its not like I measure the angles to be sure.
EDIT: Yeah, what Timbones said.
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