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Re: A Little Help, Please.

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:43 am

I don't see anything particularly wrong. The GPS track looks good.

I have experienced a similar situation recently: I was driving along and waze recalculated me as if I was now 20+ ft to the right in a parking lot. It's done this in this location more than once. So, I figured bad GPS reception or interference. But, looking at my drive in the editor shows nothing out of the ordinary: my GPS drive track goes right on the road and never deviates.

So, in short there is nothing wrong with the map in regards to the freeway.

But, there is 1) a lot of reverse connectivity here, all over the place; and 2) the bike lane, like all non-drivable segments, should never be junctioned to a real street. That bike lane/path is junctioned to real roads in several places. You should fix that too.
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A Little Help, Please.

Postby McCracken808 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:59 pm

This is just getting ridiculous. Can we get some expertise here to look at this? Both UR's show the same thing. Waze has routed driver to go north on surface road. Driver is heading west on H1. This area has been an issue for a long time. Usually I'm just routed going backwards on the other side. I've not had this particular issue personally. BTW, nothing happens when heading south on H1.

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Re: A Little Help, Please.

Postby McCracken808 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:02 pm

Yeah, the zipper lane is an HOV contraflow lane on the westbound side for morning eastbound "rush hour". it gets it's name from a flexible road barrier that a "Zip-Mobile" moves from the center dividing barrier out one lane for contraflow.
This issue has been going on long before Nacron added "Zipper Lane", and as far as I know, Nacron has worked and re-worked that section over and over trying to fix it.

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Re: A Little Help, Please.

Postby Nacron » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:07 am

txemt wrote:Well....I deleted a huge section of "zipper lane." I laid out my reasons for deleting it, too. If the zipper lane needs to be added, then it needs to be off to the side, but on top of that, I think GPS will put the user onto the wrong direction of travel for that side of the highway and then come up with SRs saying "wrong driving direction."


The zipper lane is a contraflow lane that is created in the median area weekdays in the morning. It works fine and it is necessary for guidance if the person has entered the zipper lane. I'm thinking the reversing of the GPS direction is due to the bike lane. I deleted it before and it resolved the issue. I don't even think that bike lane should be there...it's not able to be driven on in a motor vehicle.

As an aside, I think that country manager should notify the segment creators as to their intention BEFORE deleting a massive segment such as the zipper lane. Countless hours was spent creating and testing that segment to ensure that there was no issue with lane hopping. Now I have to spend my time driving and noting areas of problem with it again.
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Re: A Little Help, Please.

Postby Nacron » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:26 pm

McCracken, removing the bike path resolved the flipping issue, I no longer have that problem driving that way even with the zipper lane in place.
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Re: A Little Help, Please.

Postby Nacron » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:14 am

I drew it in previously and it caused the same issue that's why I deleted it before your redrew it

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Re: A Little Help, Please.

Postby txemt » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:45 pm

What is "Zipper Lane"?

There was a road segment underneath that level of freeway labeled as a parking lot road named "Zipper Lane." I found the same thing at the exit going toward the left in that permalink, but I can't find any evidence of a "Zipper Lane" at the other end (and I only travelled about 2 miles down the freeway to the right. If "Zipper Lane" is a HOV lane, there's a proper way to put them in. I don't remember an HOV lane on the freeway when I went to Hawaii 2 years ago, but I took that segment out to see if that was the problem. If there is an HOV lane, then you can put it back, but it was at a level 0, which led me to believe it was an extra road segment.
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Re: A Little Help, Please.

Postby txemt » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:09 pm

Well....I deleted a huge section of "zipper lane." I laid out my reasons for deleting it, too. If the zipper lane needs to be added, then it needs to be off to the side, but on top of that, I think GPS will put the user onto the wrong direction of travel for that side of the highway and then come up with SRs saying "wrong driving direction."
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Re: A Little Help, Please.

Postby vickimachado » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:56 pm

McCracken808 wrote:WAZE!!! Please restore communication to drivers submitting UR's so we can inform them what's going on!


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Re: A Little Help, Please.

Postby vickimachado » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:01 pm

Yeah, I drew in that bike path without realizing it caused a problem when connected to a drivable road. Mainly I started drawing it from the aerials and went by to find it and, upon realizing it was the Pearl Harbor Bike Path (following the old railroad right-of-way), I just compulsively felt I wanted to finish it. It really doesn't need to be on a nav map, although I'm guessing that simply creating breaks at the intersection points could have resolved the problem, too. In any case, no biggie.
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